<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">My vote is for Linux Mint Cinnamon 18.1(this cut uses the 4.4LTS kernel), set the system updates for security on(for now). <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">See --</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><a href="https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=226">https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=226</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">The 18.3 version is sure pretty and offers quite a lot of newer versions of apps and new apps, but uses a non-LTS kernel, 4.13 I think. You can always install an older kernel or newer kernel.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I have a messing-around laptop running LM 18.3 Cinnamon with the 4.4LTS and the 4.14LTS kernels loaded and I switch back and forth to see how well both plays with LM 18.3. So far so good, no hiccups, but am unwilling to commit that to a daily driver at this point.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks,<br><br>Ron Singh<br><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:03 PM, John Johnson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jvj@golden.net" target="_blank">jvj@golden.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>I have a box running Ubuntu that has been idle for a while.<br>
      I think that the box set up with Ubuntu is likely at 14.x.<br>
      When it is next turned on will it update automatically?</p>
    <p>If so, what will it update to?<br>
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    <p>Will Unity go away?<br>
      What should I use instead of Unity? (let the flame wars begin)<br>
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      Any other advice is welcome.<br>
      Thanks<br>
      JohnJ<br>
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    <div class="m_8545293810565684525moz-cite-prefix">On 1/26/2018 09:43, doug moen wrote:<br>
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              <div>I used to run OpenBSD and then FreeBSD in the mid
                nineties. (Linux was junk back then.)<br>
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              I ultimately switched to Linux because it is more popular.
              Far more open source packages are tested and run on Linux
              than on BSD.<br>
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            For the same reason I switched to Linux, I also want to use
            the most popular Linux distro, for maximum compatibility,
            and so that I'll have access to the largest number of free
            software packages.<br>
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          According to John's diagram, Debian is the most
          important/influential distro. More distros are descended from
          Debian than anything else. Ubuntu is the most
          important/influential direct descendent of Debian.<br>
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        I use Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, for the same reasons that Khalid posted.
        For me, one of the killer features of Ubuntu is that it supports
        ZFS, which is the most reliable file system. I don't know any
        other distro that supports ZFS as a core package, other than
        FreeBSD.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 26 January 2018 at 05:32, John
          Johnson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jvj@golden.net" target="_blank">jvj@golden.net</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">From Bob's
            KWVOIP meeting:<br>
            <br>
            One of the questions raised was "Which GNU/Linux distro
            should I<br>
            choose, and why?"  I don't think there's an easy answer to
            that. But<br>
            maybe some of you will find this diagram useful as a way of
            seeing the<br>
            overwhelming scope of the question, even if it doesn't
            provide an answer:<br>
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            <a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://upload.wikimedia.org/w<wbr>ikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Di<wbr>stribution_Timeline.svg</a><br>
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            Comes from<br>
            <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/<wbr>wiki/File:Linux_Distribution_T<wbr>imeline.svg</a> 
            if<br>
            you need additional context.<br>
            <br>
            Adding:<br>
            <br>
            What are partitions and how big should these be made?<br>
            <br>
            Related: What are volumes?<br>
            Related: umount & umount<br>
            <br>
            JohnJ
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                On 1/24/2018 13:07, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:<br>
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                  Thanks for spreading the word.<br>
                  <br>
                  There is always interest in cryptography and
                  security-related<br>
                  presentations. There is also a KWCrypto mailing list
                  that Bob Jonkman<br>
                  does, and a few research groups at the University of
                  Waterloo (CrySP)<br>
                  that runs talks too.<br>
                  <br>
                  - Paul<br>
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                  On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 12:51:45PM -0500, Ron Singh
                  wrote:<br>
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                    @Paul, sorry for the delayed response, too many
                    fires.<br>
                    <br>
                    So, James K will be using the laptop(X220) that I am
                    basically donating to<br>
                    KWLUG as a floater for demos and the like.<br>
                    It is going to James Kelsh on Feb 5th(or earlier) to
                    prep for his March<br>
                    talk.<br>
                    After his March talk, someone at KWLUG(or James K.)
                    takes it if needed for<br>
                    April(or later talks) or a KWLUG custodian takes
                    possession of it.<br>
                    <br>
                    Tomorrow aft(Thursday), I am circulating flyers
                    extolling the virtues of<br>
                    Linux and KWLUG by way of the 3 branches of the
                    Waterloo Public<br>
                    Library(already got their permission). Hopefully,
                    someone might find if of<br>
                    interest enough to attend the meetings. The meat of
                    the flyer is<br>
                    essentially text culled from KWLUG's website with an
                    encouraging invitation<br>
                    to attend a meeting and think about joining KWLUG. I
                    wanted to get to<br>
                    Kitchener Public Library and am hopeful to do so on
                    Thursday late<br>
                    afternoon, but am at the mercy of the clock, fingers
                    crossed.<br>
                    <br>
                    Friday, I will be connecting(voice) with 3 of the
                    UPWORK people to get a<br>
                    feel for how they would present and if they are at
                    all interested in doing<br>
                    the talks for free or food or transportation or
                    money. Keep you all<br>
                    apprised.<br>
                    <br>
                    As I seems to perpetually late to the game, and
                    knowing that a crypto<br>
                    session happened some months ago, would there be any
                    interest in revisiting<br>
                    crypto?<br>
                    Can't recall who did the last one, but would that
                    person be willing to do<br>
                    another talk, assuming there is interest other than
                    mine?<br>
                    Has anyone done a mining rig with the OS being Linux
                    and mining apps<br>
                    running in a terminal session?<br>
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