<div dir="ltr">I went to 17.10 (vanilla Ubuntu) on my desktop with the assumption that I could just use my laptop if I didn't like it. But I've mostly switched to using it as my main machine.<div><br></div><div>Mind you, I'm not doing much more than web surfing and occasional Steam game playing. </div><div><br></div><div>I've noticed some apps fail to load. Like Abiword. Which is a bit frustrating. But I kind of like the UI overall. And I fully expected it would be kind of unstable, being the first interim release after a hugely major architectural change. </div><div><br></div><div>For the most part, I'm using it and I'm happy. Looking forward to 18.04. I might upgrade early.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm using Mate on Oracle Linux (basically Red Hat) at work, because a stupid kernel update killed the proprietary nvidia drivers which led to yum destroying Gnome. I'm definitely sticking to apt-based systems where I can. Mate feels old and clunky. </div><div><br></div><div>Darcy.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Bob Jonkman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bjonkman@sobac.com" target="_blank">bjonkman@sobac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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I was an Ubuntu user (with the old Gnome2 desktop, or the Gnome<br>
Fallback desktop) until about 2013, switched to Mint Debian Edition<br>
2013 because it promised to be a rolling release (no 6 month upgrades,<br>
just continuously up-to-date). This got me hooked on Mate, the<br>
replacement for Gnome2. But come 2014 the Mint people decided that<br>
Debian Edition would need upgrades after all, so I went back to Ubuntu<br>
LTS releases, still with the Mate desktop. I'm now transitioning to<br>
Debian Testing on desktops/laptops, and Debian Stable on servers, in<br>
the hope of getting back the equivalent of rolling releases.<br>
<br>
I used to run SuSE servers for work, but only briefly experimented<br>
with that for a desktop solution. The dpkg packaging system is much<br>
better than YAST, Rug, RedCarpet, and whatever else SuSE was using.<br>
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Haven't experimented with Fedora/Red Hat except on VMs.<br>
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- --Bob, who's looking forward to James's installation presentation.<br>
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On 2018-01-23 12:02 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:<br>
> I never jumped on the Mint bandwagon for a simple reason: I want my<br>
> servers and my desktops to be from the same set of repositories.<br>
> Since Ubuntu is offered by most hosting companies (dedicated and<br>
> virtual), that is what I use on the desktop. Not many (if at all)<br>
> offer Mint for servers.<br>
><br>
> I did move from KDE to XFCE about a year ago after I moved from<br>
> 14.04 to 16.04 and found it lacking a few things that I was used to<br>
> (working weather widget, removing options, such as notification<br>
> history). So I moved to XFCE after a decade with KDE. Don't miss it<br>
> really.<br>
><br>
> As for interim releases, I have learned my lesson and never ever<br>
> bother with interim releases. Only LTS releases (12.04, 14.04,<br>
> 16.04) for me. And I move from one to the next after they have been<br>
> out for many months do I bother upgrading to them. Two or so point<br>
> releases. Let others be the guinea pigs. I stick with stable stuff.<br>
> Less drama ...<br>
><br>
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