<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Yup, I will be at the Feb meet. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I think it might be wise to get the X220 to you before the meeting so that you can do a dry run of the install and make sure all is good before doing the live install at KWLUG's Feb meet? I am in Waterloo and can meet up wherever to hand off the laptop.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I wonder, since most folks really interact with a PC's desktop environment and browsers, would it be prudent to mebbe stuff a 500G HDD in the laptop so that you could have multiple installs of Linux, simply for a presenter to showcase the pros/cons of various desktop environments? <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I cannot justify(afford) storage any greater than a 128G SSD or a 500G 7200RPM WD Black HDD, and I think a 128G SSD might be tight if one wanted around 4 installs to show off Xfce, Mate, Cinnamon, Gnome3, or LXDE etc.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Rambling on a bit further, I wonder if I should not just leave the X220 without whoever will be doing any sort of presenting and who might be reluctant to mess with their own hardware, perhaps that person would benefit from a beater laptop?<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Thanks,<br><br>Ron Singh<br>"in transit, via mobile comm device"</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:24 PM, James Kelsh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:freshmeadow1@gmail.com" target="_blank">freshmeadow1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thank you Ron, it will help! That way I font have to overwrite my existing Ubuntu installation!!!!!<div>Will you be at the February meeting? We can talk there.<br><br><div id="m_-5770488277921515013AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Ron Singh <<a href="mailto:ronsingh149@gmail.com" target="_blank">ronsingh149@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Jim, I can lend an X220 laptop with 8G and an SSD(to reduce install time and make the presentation go a bit faster) for the bare-metal install if this help in anyway.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-5770488277921515013gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Thanks,<br><br>Ron Singh<br>"in transit, via mobile comm device"</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:14 AM, James Kelsh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:freshmeadow1@gmail.com" target="_blank">freshmeadow1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I would be happy to do it in March. I am thinking to include installation on bare metal from a dvd, USB stick, and maybe dual booting and installing<br>
from an iso in a VM too.<br>
Let's talk further at the February meeting.<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
> On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:24 PM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> That would be fantastic. Could you slot your presentation in March?<br>
><br>
> - Paul<br>
><br>
>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 08:18:31PM -0500, James Kelsh wrote:<br>
>> Hello all. I have been away for a while because I started teaching at Conestoga College and depending on what school you are in it takes over your life. Anyway, the beginner sessions sound like a great idea! I know I could still benefit as I do not work with Linux but have been using it for some time.<br>
>> I would be happy to give a short talk on how to install Linux on a laptop.<br>
>> I did give 2 talks in the past, one on Knoppix and the other on converting an OEM installation of Windows 7 into a virtual machine using disk2vhd and running it under Ubuntu.<br>
>> Just a thought.<br>
>> Anyway, hope to see everyone at the February meeting.<br>
>> Jim Kelsh<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:14 PM, Chamunks <<a href="mailto:chamunks@gmail.com" target="_blank">chamunks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> What if, in order to help improve on attendance we do a beginners portion and a deep dive portion of the KWLUG rather then just exclusively the 2 hour format where its all heavy from start to finish we try to have a beginner section from 7 where we cover some light stuff and then go into a deep dive in the second half. This way we can bring more rookies into the fold.<br>
>>><br>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:25 AM Andrew Sullivan Cant <<a href="mailto:acant@alumni.uwaterloo.ca" target="_blank">acant@alumni.uwaterloo.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> Robert Elder was also running a Linux basics meetup last year, but has<br>
>>>> not run any events yet this year:<br>
>>>> <a href="https://www.meetup.com/Intro-to-Linux-Command-line-C-Programming/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.meetup.com/Intro-t<wbr>o-Linux-Command-line-C-Program<wbr>ming/</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> He also has some Linux how to material on his own website:<br>
>>>> <a href="https://www.robertelder.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.robertelder.org/</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Andrew<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> On 16/01/18 22:06, Joan Currie wrote:<br>
>>>>> I'd like that as well. Cheers, Joan.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:06 PM, Bob Jonkman <<a href="mailto:bjonkman@sobac.com" target="_blank">bjonkman@sobac.com</a><br>
>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bjonkman@sobac.com" target="_blank">bjonkman@sobac.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I think a presentation on GNU/Linux file systems is a great idea!<br>
>>>>> Always good to go back to basics sometimes<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> --Bob<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On January 16, 2018 3:34:55 PM EST, Chamunks <<a href="mailto:chamunks@gmail.com" target="_blank">chamunks@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:chamunks@gmail.com" target="_blank">chamunks@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> If its a noobie meetup covering the Linux filesystem and things<br>
>>>>> like that could really help get peoples head around things its<br>
>>>>> logical to us veterans but it might help to discuss the<br>
>>>>> differences between the major distros and some of the history etc.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:17 AM CrankyOldBugger<br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.<wbr>com</a>>><br>
>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> +1 on the edX course...<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 at 03:08 Sandeep Johri<br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:sandeepjohri@rogers.com" target="_blank">sandeepjohri@rogers.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sandeepjohri@rogers.com" target="_blank">sandeepjohri@rogers.co<wbr>m</a>>><br>
>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I'd also suggest joining the free Introduction to Linux<br>
>>>>> course on EdX. I found it helpful.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Sandeep<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> From:<br>
>>>>> Sandeep Johri<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 15/01/18 01:01 PM, <a href="mailto:peter_melse@gto.net" target="_blank">peter_melse@gto.net</a><br>
>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter_melse@gto.net" target="_blank">peter_melse@gto.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>> DevOps talk suggestions:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> configuration management (puppet, chef, ansible, salt,<br>
>>>>>> etc.)<br>
>>>>>> automated deployment (satellite, the foreman)<br>
>>>>>> patch management (aptly, landscape, and the rhel<br>
>>>>>> equivalents?)<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> ------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>------------<br>
>>>>>> *Subject:* [kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies<br>
>>>>>> *Date:* Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:18:10 -0500<br>
>>>>>> *From:* <<a href="mailto:jvj@golden.net" target="_blank">jvj@golden.net</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jvj@golden.net" target="_blank">jvj@golden.net</a>><br>
>>>>>> *To:* kwlug <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>><br>
>>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>><br>
>>>>>> *Reply-To:* KWLUG discussion <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>><br>
>>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Linux & Linux admin for newbies<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> In last week's meeting an attendee was self described<br>
>>>>>> as a Linux newbie and explained that Linux admin was<br>
>>>>>> an interest.<br>
>>>>>> As I identified with the "newbie" aspect I gave the<br>
>>>>>> attendee a short list of topics to study.<br>
>>>>>> This list (somewhat modified) follows - and shows that<br>
>>>>>> I am somewhat dated.<br>
>>>>>> And I invite the members to copy and and add to this<br>
>>>>>> list to help other new newbies who might subscribe to<br>
>>>>>> these discussions.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> *IX == UNIX (history)<br>
>>>>>> (with reference to Tim's recap of last week.)<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Command Line Input aka CLI<br>
>>>>>> Terminal<br>
>>>>>> Screen<br>
>>>>>> Shell & BASH Shell<br>
>>>>>> BASH scripting<br>
>>>>>> tar<br>
>>>>>> ssh<br>
>>>>>> gnome<br>
>>>>>> unity<br>
>>>>>> gnome vs unity<br>
>>>>>> text editors: vi & vim & [other]<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Linux admin (aka DevOps)<br>
>>>>>> I have nothing to add here - and am looking for topics.<br>
>>>>>> (hint: I go back to fsck)<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>>> JohnJ<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
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