<div dir="ltr">I do hear good things about Xfce... I might look into it myself again..<div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 at 14:02 Ron Singh <<a href="mailto:ronsingh149@gmail.com">ronsingh149@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Ditto here. I've only been in the Linux world for 9 months now. <br>Distro-hopped for about 3 months, and only in the last 6 months have settled to what I am very happy with, namely, LinuxMint 18.1 Xfce. <br>Clean clean clean desktop, on 4.4 LTS of the Linux kernel and security patches promised to early 2021. My hardware profile is modest at Thinkpads, using 2nd gen Intel CPUs, X220,T420s, T410s, W520.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I do weekly grinding though various LTS, rolling releases and even some bleeding distros in a Virtualbox VM, only to to find that LM 18.1 Xfce to be the most reliable and memory/energy efficient OS that I have ever used, well, at least in the last 6 months.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Gnome and KDE makes me really angry for putting up walls for me in terms of accessibility, Mate is quite gentle on the nerves, but I find Xfce to be closest to the way I want to interact with a desktop interface, quickly and intuitively.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-4991800612254256158gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Thanks,<br><br>Ron Singh<br>"in transit, via mobile comm device"</div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com" target="_blank">kb@2bits.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That is exactly my strategy.<br>
<br>
I learned a lesson the hard way around 10 or so years back when<br>
I upgraded from an LTS to a non-LTS release, and got broken things<br>
on KDE that almost drove me off from it then. Early this year I<br>
switched from KDE to XFCE after I upgraded to 16.04 (one year<br>
after it came out), and never looked back.<br>
<br>
Ever since, I only stick with LTS releases, and life has been easier<br>
that way.<br>
<br>
Even with LTS, I tend to watch until at least the first .1 release<br>
comes out and the main kinks ironed out.<br>
<br>
Preserves your sanity that way.<br>
<br>
On 10/19/17, L.D. Paniak <<a href="mailto:ldpaniak@fourpisolutions.com" target="_blank">ldpaniak@fourpisolutions.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Is there anything compelling in 17.10 that I cannot get in 16.04 with HWE?<br>
> It is to the point where I am ignoring non-LTS releases in general.<br>
><br>
> On 10/19/2017 12:54 PM, Keefer Rourke wrote:<br>
>> I'm currently running Fedora 27 beta, and I'm really disappointed with<br>
>> GNOME 3.26.1 until recently, Mutter would crash any time you closed a<br>
>> maximized (or half-tiled) window. For a "stable" release, GNOME is<br>
>> hugely disappointing.<br>
>><br>
>> The bugs in *vanilla* GNOME have been show-stoppers for the final<br>
>> release of Fedora 27 -- I'm honestly surprised that Canonical decided<br>
>> to release 17.10 with the current state of things.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> Keefer<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, 2017-10-19 at 15:27 +0000, CrankyOldBugger wrote:<br>
>>> And a reason why I like to test new stuff out via virtual machines,<br>
>>> not real boxes!<br>
>>><br>
>>> I had to submit two bug reports in the first few minutes. But now it<br>
>>> seems to be running a bit better after another reboot..<br>
>>><br>
>>> What can I say about it? If you ignore the bright orange background<br>
>>> and the dock, it looks just like Fedora GNOME or any other GNOME. It<br>
>>> will be interesting to see how Canonical keeps us interested in their<br>
>>> desktop product if it's just like anybody else's.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Or maybe they'll just focus on the stuff they do well, like MaaS and<br>
>>> server and docker, etc.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 at 11:22 Khalid Baheyeldin <<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com" target="_blank">kb@2bits.com</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com" target="_blank">kb@2bits.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>> On 10/19/17, CrankyOldBugger <<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>> > I just downloaded the new Ubuntu 17.10 and installed it in a virtual<br>
>>>> > machine (virtualbox on a Windows host).<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > So far, it's interesting, but I'm sure I don't need to remind the<br>
>>>> people<br>
>>>> > here to not drop a brand new release on a production box. In<br>
>>>> other words,<br>
>>>> > I've come across quite a few bugs so far...<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> One more reason I stay with LTS releases, and only after the .1 version<br>
>>>> of them comes out.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Khalid M. Baheyeldin<br>
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