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<p>More news on the GNOME/WAYLAND RDP front...</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNOME-Mutter-3.25.92" class="OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk585554" previewremoved="true">https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNOME-Mutter-3.25.92</a></p>
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<p>It seems that the powers that be are still working on a new RDP type program for GNOME...</p>
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<p>You GIT types can see it at <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/jadahl/gnome-remote-desktop" class="OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk121906" previewremoved="true">https://gitlab.gnome.org/jadahl/gnome-remote-desktop</a></p>
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<div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> kwlug-disc <kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org> on behalf of Charles M <chaslinux@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 September 2017 21:07<br>
<b>To:</b> KWLUG discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kwlug-disc] Remoting into GNOME desktop</font>
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<div class="PlainText">I remember my brother Michael and I installing FreeBSD (around 1998/9)<br>
from floppy on my IBM Butterfly Laptop (701c if I remember correctly).<br>
We got to about floppy 42 and it was bad, doh!<br>
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On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 9:08 PM, CrankyOldBugger<br>
<crankyoldbugger@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
> You're forgetting the dictionary pack...<br>
><br>
> On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 at 11:26 Stuart Seeley <stuart@lowlevel.ca> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Believe WordPerfect 5.1 was 11 DSDD 5 1/4" floppies...<br>
>><br>
>> Stuart<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPad<br>
>><br>
>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:20 AM, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger@gmail.com><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> You shouldn't encourage someone named Cranky...<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Cranky, who fondly remembers installing Word Perfect 5.1 with 36<br>
>> floppies...<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 at 09:18 Bob Jonkman <bjonkman@sobac.com> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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>>><br>
>>> Hi Charles! Thanx, but it wasn't really a tech support question, more<br>
>>> a reminiscence of how easy it used to be, meant as encouraging words<br>
>>> for Cranky...<br>
>>><br>
>>> - --Bob, who probably has Novell branded CDs around here somewhere<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 2017-08-29 09:00 AM, Charles McColm wrote:<br>
>>> > If you really want to know Bob I have my boxed SuSE Pro 9.2 still<br>
>>> > sitting at work ;-) You're welcome to borrow it for awhile. I loved<br>
>>> > 9.2, but remember 9.3 really felt bloated.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > To: KWLUG discussion Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Remoting into GNOME<br>
>>> > desktop<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I wonder what SUSE was using cira v9.3 -- I remember setting up X<br>
>>> > sessions to be accessed by VNC. Fairly simple, as I recall, just<br>
>>> > adding a couple of lines similar to 'x1: vnc=1024x768' to the X<br>
>>> > display config file...<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > --Bob.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On 2017-08-28 04:24 PM, Jeff Smith wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> Some new news on this issue:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> <a href="https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop" id="LPlnk130045" previewremoved="true">
https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop</a>
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>>> >><br>
>>> >> [<a href="https://ctrl.blog/wp-content/uploads/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop-sharing-1072x603.png]<https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop" id="LPlnk438256" previewremoved="true">https://ctrl.blog/wp-content/uploads/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop-sharing-1072x603.png]<https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop</a>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> Remote desktop capabilities set to make a comeback in GNOME on<br>
>>> >> Wayland<<a href="https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop" id="LPlnk956906" previewremoved="true">https://ctrl.blog/entry/wayland-gnome-remote-desktop</a>>
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>>> >> ctrl.blog Work on new Mutter APIs and Remote Desktop service<br>
>>> >> enable screen recording and remote desktop in GNOME under<br>
>>> >> Wayland.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> It seems that a) I'm not losing my mind and GNOME/Wayland does<br>
>>> >> not in fact currently have VNC baked in, and b) they are working<br>
>>> >> on fixing that (the Wayland VNC thing, not my mental health).<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> ________________________________ From: kwlug-disc<br>
>>> >> <kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org> on behalf of Khalid Baheyeldin<br>
>>> >> <kb@2bits.com> Sent: 18 August 2017 12:19 To: KWLUG discussion<br>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Remoting into GNOME desktop<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> There was a recent thread here in response to a similar question<br>
>>> >> that I asked.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> I tried VNC, but it is very slow.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> NoMachine worked fine. There are .deb packages that you install<br>
>>> >> using gdebi and they work seamlessly. Little network overhead<br>
>>> >> and very responsive.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> On 8/18/17, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
>>> >>> With the upcoming changes to Ubuntu (GNOME and Wayland), and<br>
>>> >>> with the current similar state of Fedora and other distros, has<br>
>>> >>> anyone given any though as to how to remote into a system such<br>
>>> >>> as these and remotely controlled the desktop (similar to RDP,<br>
>>> >>> VNC, etc.)<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> I'm trying to plan out how I can contact my machines once I<br>
>>> >>> upgrade the Ubuntu boxes, as well as the ones currently<br>
>>> >>> running Fedora 26.<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> It seems that my current solution of VNC or X11VNC over SSH<br>
>>> >>> isn't going to work once they move from X to Wayland. Sure, I<br>
>>> >>> could drop back to X, but I wanted to see how we can do this<br>
>>> >>> like it says in the brochure...<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> From what I've seen so far, we're going to really rock the<br>
>>> >>> remote connectivity boat when we switch to Wayland, and the<br>
>>> >>> next version of Ubuntu is supposed to do just that. As of<br>
>>> >>> right now, I am unable to bring up my personal laptop's Fedora<br>
>>> >>> 26 desktop remotely because I haven't been able to find a<br>
>>> >>> Wayland solution.<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> Connecting to Ubuntu Unity desktops is easy with SSH and VNC<br>
>>> >>> (using TigerVNC in most cases). But from what I understand,<br>
>>> >>> VNCserver (and its variants) does not support Wayland, only X.<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> So what we need is:<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> SSH tunnel (or a similarly secure GUI connection) a<br>
>>> >>> Wayland/GNOME ready GUI presentation. An "always-on" connection<br>
>>> >>> that doesn't depend on someone being logged on at the server<br>
>>> >>> end (for example, if I reboot the server remotely I still want<br>
>>> >>> to come back and see a GUI logon. AFAIK you can't do this with<br>
>>> >>> Vino.)<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> And of course, ways to achieve this using a client that's<br>
>>> >>> either Linux or Windows (for those of us forced to use Windows<br>
>>> >>> at work....)<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> Does anyone have any thoughts on this?<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> -- Khalid M. Baheyeldin 2bits.com, Inc. <a href="http://2bits.com" id="LPlnk389873" previewremoved="true">
http://2bits.com</a> Drupal<br>
>>> >> optimization, development, customization and consulting.<br>
>>> >> Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. -- Edsger W.Dijkstra<br>
>>> >> Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. -- Leonardo da<br>
>>> >> Vinci<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> _______________________________________________ kwlug-disc<br>
>>> >> mailing list kwlug-disc@kwlug.org<br>
>>> >> <a href="http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org" id="LPlnk496245" previewremoved="true">
http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org</a><br>
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>>> >> Page<<a href="http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org" id="LPlnk488381" previewremoved="true">http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org</a>><br>
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>>> >> Linux and are interested in the KWLUG (Kitchener-Waterloo Linux<br>
>>> >> User Group) community. There is also a low ...<br>
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>>> >> _______________________________________________ kwlug-disc<br>
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>>> ><br>
>>> > _______________________________________________ kwlug-disc mailing<br>
>>> > list kwlug-disc@kwlug.org<br>
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>>> > _______________________________________________ kwlug-disc mailing<br>
>>> > list kwlug-disc@kwlug.org<br>
>>> > <a href="http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org" id="LPlnk107637" previewremoved="true">
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>>><br>
>>> - --<br>
>>> Bob Jonkman <bjonkman@sobac.com> Phone: +1-519-635-9413<br>
>>> SOBAC Microcomputer Services <a href="http://sobac.com/sobac/" id="LPlnk121981" previewremoved="true">
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