<div dir="ltr">Try creating an authenticated user account and using SMTPAUTH if you are not already when sending from the kwlug VPS. The reverse DNS doesn't matter as long as it matches to one of the forward A records.<div><br></div><div>Also check the gmail spam folder. Sometimes Gmail junks my 'alert' type emails.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><b>Mark Steffen</b><div><font size="1">Office Direct: +1.226.476.1240 | Mobile/WhatsApp: +1.226.600.0464</font></div><div><i style="font-size:x-small">"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet." -Abraham Lincoln</i></div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 1:06 PM, B. S. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bs27975@gmail.com" target="_blank">bs27975@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I first tried <a href="http://mail.kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mail.kwlug.org</a>, got cert errors, changed to cpanel2, and that part got happy. (Authenticating via <a href="http://mail.kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mail.kwlug.org</a> id.)<br>
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Yes, it's coming from the VPS.<br>
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Curious it's only gmail unhappy.<span class=""><br>
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> we'll need to set reverse lookup DNS<br>
> for the IP (I can do that, just let me know what you want it set to).<br>
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I can't say I know what it should be set to - <a href="http://mail.kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mail.kwlug.org</a> / drupal can't be impacted by this. These are all @<a href="http://kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kwlug.org</a> (outgoing) addresses. There is no and never will be a mail server here - outgoing / notifications only.<br>
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AFAIK, there can only be one reverse IP to name mapping. So it's not clear to me what to suggest. (It will never be able to get back, and I can't know what e-mail addresses might be used by other parts of the server later.<br>
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Help me understand ... Linux boxes all over the world have (internal) mail baked in - even internal notifications work that way. It's only a small step from that to sending the notification externally, and @gmail has to be a frequent destination. Especially with dynamic ip addresses - everybody can't set their reverse ip! Huh? (Grumble, at gmail, not you.)<br>
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[Let alone direct send to cpanel2 from Thunderbird identity just worked. Which wasn't from the vps.]<span class=""><br>
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On 03/30/2017 12:38 PM, Mark Steffen wrote:<br>
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It's authenticated and relaying through <a href="http://cpanel2.indieserve.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">cpanel2.indieserve.net</a><br></span>
<<a href="http://cpanel2.indieserve.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cpanel2.indieserve.net</a><wbr>>? If so, should be fine. If you were<span class=""><br>
sending it directly from the VPS we'll need to set reverse lookup DNS<br>
for the IP (I can do that, just let me know what you want it set to).<br>
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/"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet." -Abraham Lincoln/<span class=""><br>
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:00 PM, B.S. <<a href="mailto:bs27975.2@gmail.com" target="_blank">bs27975.2@gmail.com</a><br></span><span class="">
<mailto:<a href="mailto:bs27975.2@gmail.com" target="_blank">bs27975.2@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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So on a Debian Jessie machine, I'm trying to get system notification<br>
mail messages out to real e-mail so I actually find out something<br>
happened. Like an unattended-upgrade failure.<br>
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I understand that default installs auto install localhost mail<br>
facilities only. So I've installed msmtp and it's largely entirely<br>
working.<br>
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However, e-mail to gmail accounts never seem to land. @<a href="http://live.ca" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">live.ca</a><br></span>
<<a href="http://live.ca" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://live.ca</a>> just works, instantly even. Yahoo and another<br>
non-gmail provider too.<br>
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In all cases, <a href="http://cpanel2.indieserve.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">cpanel2.indieserve.net</a> <<a href="http://cpanel2.indieserve.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cpanel2.indieserve.net</a><wbr>><span class=""><br>
swallows up the message without error.<br>
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Just nothing ever arrives when sent to @<a href="http://gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gmail.com</a> <<a href="http://gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://gmail.com</a>>.<span class=""><br>
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Anyone have any ideas?<br>
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Or is this something needing configuration on <a href="http://mail.kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mail.kwlug.org</a><br></span>
<<a href="http://mail.kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mail.kwlug.org</a>>, like DKIM, or some other bizarreness?<span class=""><br>
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Thanks for any thoughts.<br>
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