<div dir="ltr">I really quite enjoy the Discourse forums format as its designed to unbury the hopefully most relevant sections of the forum conversation. If we wanted to have something a bit more modernized for our lovely old lug. <br><br>I would also give a +1 to a nextcloud that'd be kinda neat. I was going to upgrade my OwnCloud instance on my NAS but discovered that 2 of my drives are coming close to being in a scary situation and I'm not willing to gamble on 2 so I'll leave it powered off until I get around to adding new drives.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 10:50 AM Mark Steffen <<a href="mailto:rmarksteffen@gmail.com">rmarksteffen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Hi bs,<div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">I've set up the VPS and emailed creds to you, Bob and Paul.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Daily backups are automatically taken to local backup storage at the datacentre, I also do weekly backups of everything off-site (via encrypted USB drive(s)) as I prefer to have immutable backups in this day and age. There is a feature in the control panel which Bob has access to that will let you take snapshots at your own pleasure to prep for big changes you may need to roll-back from.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Cheers,</div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br clear="all" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-8139989509553671735gmail_signature gmail_msg" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Mark Steffen</b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-8139989509553671735gmail_signature gmail_msg" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><font size="1" class="gmail_msg">Office Direct: <a href="tel:(226)%20476-1240" value="+12264761240" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">+1.226.476.1240</a> | Mobile/WhatsApp: <a href="tel:(226)%20600-0464" value="+12266000464" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">+1.226.600.0464</a></font></div><div class="gmail_msg"><i style="font-size:x-small" class="gmail_msg">"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet." -Abraham Lincoln</i></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 1:58 AM, B.S. <span dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:bs27975.2@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">bs27975.2@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I would be interested in participating in a Nextcloud group instance maintenance. Group (volunteer) e-engagement has proven to be problematic at OOTC, so exploring alternative mechanisms could be leverageable.<br class="gmail_msg">
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IIUC, Nextcloud is far more than 'just' the file sharing first thought of when the term is heard, so it seems to make sense that Bob would suggest it.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Although I'm not particularly e-social, I don't expect helping maintain any such would be a problem.<br class="gmail_msg">
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Distro should be stock Debian Jessie. Hostname kwlugs1 (?) - not that it much matters - more important will be the DNS names, which will depend upon the multiple envisioned services Bob suggests firing up. (And associated cert/key correlations.) More problematic may be figuring out a documentation model up front - from the perspectives of both migration (new OS' instances every few years), and maintenance (new maintainers needing to get up to speed on the instance quickly). Some sort of snapshot / backup / replication facility also seems prudent - should an in-place OS upgrade go south, reverting will be desirable. And, stuff happens.<span class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">
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On 03/25/2017 02:34 PM, Mark Steffen wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
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Sounds good Bob. If someone can 'second' that by way of volunteering for<br class="gmail_msg">
maintenance, I'll be glad to go ahead and set it up if you let me know<br class="gmail_msg">
disk and ram requirements, preferred distro and a hostname.<br class="gmail_msg">
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I've been wanting to set up a KWLUG GNUsocial instance. It would only<br class="gmail_msg">
be one Web-based app, so it wouldn't completely consume a VPS. If<br class="gmail_msg">
someone is willing to help with the VPS maintenance I'll gladly help<br class="gmail_msg">
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There's a @KWLUG GNUsocial account at <a href="http://sn.jonkman.ca/kwlug" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://sn.jonkman.ca/kwlug</a> right<br class="gmail_msg">
now, but it would carry much more authority if it were actually hosted<br class="gmail_msg"></span>
on a <a href="http://gs.kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">gs.kwlug.org</a> <<a href="http://gs.kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://gs.kwlug.org</a>> domain. And while I'm happy<span class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">
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