<div dir="ltr">And any host-your-own email solution is going to immediately going to get flagged by everybody as spam.  Best bet is probably hiring some hosting service that offers email.<div><br></div><div>NextCloud looks cool. I've been trying to make p2p syncing services work for me and, as much as I don't have the energy to manage hosting a thing these days, maybe this is something I can make work for my wife and I. She's pretty Google-phobic herself...</div><div><br></div><div>Darcy.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Chamunks <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chamunks@gmail.com" target="_blank">chamunks@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">The only thing next cloud doesn't do that I want to host my own of is E-mail I really want to get off the cloud with that. But it's way too finicky and I'd want it actually secure. </p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 13, 2016, 3:20 PM Bob Jonkman <<a href="mailto:bjonkman@sobac.com" target="_blank">bjonkman@sobac.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
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I'm still running ownCloud too. But like Jason, this may be the time<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
to consider an upgrade.<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
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I'm going to do a vanilla install in a VM before I attempt an upgrade.<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
 And it looks like the upgrade will be a two-step process: ownCloud<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
9.1 -> Nextcloud 10.0 -> Nextcloud 11.0<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
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But for any of you who are syncing with my server, don't hold your<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
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On 2016-12-13 01:50 PM, CrankyOldBugger wrote:<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
> I think Bob is our resident Nextcloud expert.  I was running<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
> Owncloud before but I lost it when I killed off that server.<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
> Thinking of trying out the Nextcloud soon, though.<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
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> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 at 13:48 <a href="mailto:locklin.jason@gmail.com" class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg" target="_blank">locklin.jason@gmail.com</a> <<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
> <a href="mailto:locklin.jason@gmail.com" class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg" target="_blank">locklin.jason@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
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>> Wow, big security and performance improvements! I guess it's time<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
>> to get off my duff and migrate from Owncloud. Any hints for the<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
>> transition? It's in a VPS (proxmox), so I I should be able to<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
>> snapshot incase there are any issues, but I thought I would ask.<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
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>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:06:18 +0000 CrankyOldBugger<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
>> <<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
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>>> For you Nextcloud fans, they've announced version 11 (still in<br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
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>> <a href="https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-11-sets-new-standard-for-security-and-scalability/" rel="noreferrer" class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://nextcloud.com/blog/<wbr>nextcloud-11-sets-new-<wbr>standard-for-security-and-<wbr>scalability/</a><br class="m_8164336519684375556gmail_msg">
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