<html><head></head><body>One of the most interesting options in that direction: <a href="https://ricochet.im">https://ricochet.im</a>/. <a href="https://www.imperialviolet.org/2013/11/10/pond.html">https://www.imperialviolet.org/2013/11/10/pond.html</a> is also an option. maybe.<br>
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Also, about universal p2p systems: that was one of the basic ideas underneath Urbit, which might be a better long term solution if it ever gets off the ground.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 26 novembre 2016 18:17:55 HNE, Jason Locklin <locklin.jason@gmail.com> a écrit :<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">The nice thing about a federated system is that p2p is just a special case, and one can become the other when the hardware makes it realistic. The chatsecure guys were talking about this a while back where they suggested that every device could be its own xmpp server, perhaps using tor for persistent routing and privacy. <br /><br />On November 26, 2016 3:54:07 PM EST, Chamunks <chamunks@gmail.com> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">A fully p2p system is the best system, but it would have to be based on<br />something like DHTs so that offline messaging could work;<br /><br />This would be ideal except on mobile battery is at a premium so good<br />luck<br />telling people they need to contribute cycles to a dht<br /><br />On Sat, Nov 26, 2016, 1:24 PM Nick Guenther <nguenthe@uwaterloo.ca><br />wrote:<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style=!
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0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"><br /><br /> Le 26 novembre 2016 12:25:40 HNE, "B. S." <bs27975@gmail.com> a écrit<br /></blockquote>:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"> it would be ideal that we try and find a system that they can't<br /></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>have<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf!
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padding-left: 1ex;"> one centralized location to squat in and collect our metadata.<br /></blockquote><br />Does that not exist already in Tor?</blockquote><br /><br /> Only if all the servers you use are .onion hidden services. If you go<br /></blockquote>from<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"> exit nodes to <a href="http://talk.google.com">talk.google.com</a> you made as little progress as using<br /></blockquote>Tor to<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"> access Facebook.<br /> A fully p2p system is the best system, but it would have to be based<br /></blockquote>on<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"> something like DHTs so that offline messaging could work; this was<br /></blockquote>tox's<br /><blockquote
class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"> idea, but I do not trust their code quality one bit; maybe they've<br /></blockquote>gotten<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"> better in the years since their founding.<br /><br /><br /><hr /><br /> kwlug-disc mailing list<br /> kwlug-disc@kwlug.org<br /> <a href="http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org">http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org</a></blockquote><br /><br /><br /><hr /><br /><br /><hr /><br />kwlug-disc mailing list<br />kwlug-disc@kwlug.org<br /><a href="http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org">http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org</a><br /></blockquote></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>