<div dir="ltr">Do please keep us up to date on your progress.  Wifeski has been bugging me for years to put music throughout the house but I keep changing the topic.  My biggest problem is that we can never agree on what music to listen to.  I would love to hear of a good solution that can containerize the music per room/occupant.<div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 at 14:05 Raul Suarez via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" class="gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">Hi,</span></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" class="gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" class="gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">First things first:</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_47822" class="gmail_msg"><span id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_47823" class="gmail_msg">I remember that a few years ago Richard Weait gave a presentation on setting this up. He showed some hardware devices to receive the sound in each room connected to the amplifier or speakers.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_47824" class="gmail_msg">I can't remember what those devices were, does anyone here remember?<br class="gmail_msg"></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_47828" class="gmail_msg"><span id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_47829" class="gmail_msg"><br id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_47830" class="gmail_msg"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_47828" class="gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">The whole story</span></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><span id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32275" class="gmail_msg">I am in the process of setting up a distributed sound system for home. I want to be able to play music on different rooms either the same music of different music on each room.</span></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><span id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_41069" class="gmail_msg">I want to be able to play my own music as well as streaming services such as Google Play or Spotify.</span></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">I want to do it as inexpensive and energy efficient as possible.</span></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">I am almost all set and I can offer a presentation if I ever get it to work exactly as I want or at least to show the pitfalls I found</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><span id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_38880" class="gmail_msg">This is what I have done up to now:</span></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">First try</span></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- I have an old headless computer connected to my sound system running VLC on start up<span class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- I use VLC Mobile remote on the android to control what is playing on that room.</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Pro:</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- Sergiane is happy enough with this set up. It is a small home and cranking up the volume you can hear in every room.</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- Very easy to set up with little to no technical expertise, very easy to use.</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Con:</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- It only controls one room and only the music on the laptop. While VLC can access UPnP servers, I haven't found an Android VLC remote app that allows me to select the DLNA source.</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- It is only practical if there is only one person at home or we both are in the same room and want to hear the same thing.</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Second try</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- I also have a RT-N54U router that I set up as a DLNA (UPnP) server with my music on a USB Drive</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- On the laptop I installed <a class="m_-8873525007764405643edited-link-editor m_-8873525007764405643enhancr2_9bd4c4e0-3ade-52ec-9e1d-6ae6f216237f gmail_msg" href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Rygel/Plugins" id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_40830" target="_blank">"rygel" with the playbin plug in</a> which allows me to serve as a UPnP rederer (it plays music it receives through UPnP</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- On the android phone I use Bubble UPnP and can select local music or music from the DLNA server and play it on the phone or forward the music to the laptop renderer.</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Pro:</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- As I change rooms I can select a different renderer for a "follow me" experience (e.g. my Chrome cast)</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- I can also play music on my games room using the PS3 getting the music from the router </div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Con:</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- I can only play content provided by a DLNA server. Google play music, Spotify and others do not provide DLNA</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- I cannot play the same content simultaneously on two rooms</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- A bit more complex to use as the user needs to select the server and the renderer. (Very small learning curve)</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Third try (in progress)</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- There are a few Android applications that can get any thing that is playing in the phone and send it to one or multiple a DLNA renderers (AllStream, AirAudio)</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Pro:</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- I get all I want and need for now</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Con:</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- The phone needs to be rooted to work properly</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- The user needs to controll the player and controlling the upnp forwarder app.</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">ToDo: </div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- Root one of my devices and try AirAudio</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- Try leapcast on the old laptop to "ChromeCast" from the phone to the laptop.</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">- Get Raspberry pi devices to work as sound endpoints for different rooms</div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32244" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"></div><div id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32245" class="gmail_msg"> </div><div class="m_-8873525007764405643signature gmail_msg" id="m_-8873525007764405643yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477497887993_32246">Raul Suarez
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