<html><head></head><body>Perhaps this is something we can solve as a group. <br>
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>From my recent experiences, (if not cross protocol) lync has a third party client that works nicely on Android, iOS, and Linux.<br>
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Keeping federation, and our oss roots in mind, self-hosted ejabberd might be a reasonable option.<br>
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In addition to what Bob said about SMS. There is no guarantee of delivery, the TTL is usually 5 days, and wind (especially wind away) gets QoSed out of existence often. (At one point I was only getting 20% of incoming calls, and no sms!) <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 13, 2016 11:03:28 AM EDT, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">So ultimately, the answer to my question is "no"....<div><br /></div><div>I suppose that Pidgin is the best best for cross-platform and cross-protocol, but as it was pointed out earlier, this can a bit of a moving target. The "walled gardens" are still unwilling to play nice.</div><div><br /></div><div>All things being equal, I'd be happy to try out a locally made app (like Kik), but we still have people on IRC, some on Google, some on Skype, etc.</div><div><br /></div><div>Well, I will crawl back into my hole in the ground and wait another decade before asking my question again...</div><div><br /></div></div><br /><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 13 May 2016 at 10:58 Jason Locklin <<a href="mailto:locklin.jason@gmail.com">locklin.jason@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br />
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On 13/05/16 10:41 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith (mailing lists account) wrote:<br />
>> Pidgin and the like have always been a bit of an unstable mess with<br />
>> all the constantly changing, underlying protocols that they need to<br />
>> support (that said, I do still use Bitlbee for XMPP, Twitter, and<br />
>> Facebook).<br />
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> There is an important distinction here I think that needs to be made.<br />
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> Pidgin has been a bit of an unstable mess because the underlying protocols it’s trying to unify are obfuscated, undocumented and change without warning.<br />
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> XMPP has always worked. IRC has always worked.<br />
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> Google Hangouts stopped federating for a while, but now they seem to be federating again. No official word on changing their stance, but maybe a glimmer of hope.<br />
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> All this walled-garden “gotta try to trap the users in our specific app” is terribly frustrating and reminds me of the old MSN/ICQ/Y! messaging wars.<br />
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True, but it's never been terribly good at IRC. Dedicated IRC and XMPP<br />
clients have generally been quicker to implement new features and<br />
support old ones consistently. It's a big load trying to support many<br />
protocols *and* keeping the UI functioning well.<br />
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