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    This may be slightly off topic however thought I'd add my 2 cents
    regarding my sucess with Powerline Adapters. <br>
    <br>
    My cable modem / router is in our basement and the bedroom upstairs
    gets no / a very weak wifi signal.  As a result I opted for
    powerline adapters.  Initially the broadband speed I'd get was
    1/10th of the speed that I'd get on pc's connected directly to the
    cable modem.  However the following tweaks have helped improve that
    to 1/3rd of that speed:<br>
    <br>
    1) Using a wall socket and not attaching the adpaters to a power
    bar.<br>
    <br>
    2) Using that wall socket for the adapter only and not attaching any
    other gadget to the spare outlet.<br>
    <br>
    3) Using the wall socket that is closest to the breaker
    switchboard.  My bedroom and the basement are on different circuits
    as a result being close to the switchboard helps ensure the signals
    travel the shortest distance.<br>
    <br>
    The above has resulted in my needing to run a 20' to 30' ethernet
    cable from my pc to the powerline adapter however the improvement in
    signal strength as been worth it.  There are several articles like <a
href="http://help.virginmedia.com/system/selfservice.controller?CMD=VIEW_ARTICLE&ARTICLE_ID=2814&CURRENT_CMD=SEARCH&CONFIGURATION=1001&PARTITION_ID=1&USERTYPE=1&LANGUAGE=en&COUNTY=us&VM_CUSTOMER_TYPE=Cable">this
      one</a> that suggest ways to improve powerline adapter
    performance.  Additionally for the things I do at home (e.g.
    streaming movies / songs from my 'basement' pc, sharing files), I
    find them to be reliable.<br>
    <br>
    Thanks<br>
    Sandeep<br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">From:
Sandeep Johri</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/07/15 09:35 AM, CrankyOldBugger
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I can confirm that power line ethernet is still a
        long ways from reliable.  I had some d-link adapters a few years
        ago and couldn't even get them to talk to each other.
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        <div>PoE, on the other hand, is something else altogether.  The
          VoIP system we use at work depends on PoE switches to light up
          the phones.  Every time we install the VoIP in a remote office
          we need to replace the existing switches with PoE equipment.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 at 09:25 Raymond Chen <<a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:raymondchen625@gmail.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:raymondchen625@gmail.com">raymondchen625@gmail.com</a></a>>
          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">At first I thought Joe was talking about power
            line ethernet. After some study it turned out to be another
            thing. I guess Power over Ethernet is cool, if we are
            planning the wiring from scratch. BTW, the 'power line
            ethernet' is not very reliable. I have two adapters which
            work poorly, with a lot of packet loss, if I plug any of
            them in a power strip. If both of them are on wall outlet,
            they work well. </div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Joe
              Wennechuk <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:youcanreachmehere@hotmail.com"
                  target="_blank">youcanreachmehere@hotmail.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">IMHO.....  Being that you're at the
                    planning phase I would suggest the extra money on
                    Power over Ethernet gear. It works very well, and
                    provides much more flexibility of usage. It will
                    save many headaches in the future and will allow you
                    to position the wireless equipment it the optimum
                    position.<br>
                    I have found Mikrotik gear to be extremely well
                    made, reliable, and mostly for me cheap! And just
                    using an rj-45 with out a power brick, module, and
                    outlet necessity very nice indeed.
                    <div><br>
                      <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:PoE-Out"
                          target="_blank">http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:PoE-Out</a></div>
                      <div><br>
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                      <div>I LOVE of the mikrotik monitoring and
                        discovery tools, especially the "Dude"</div>
                      <div><br>
                        <div>> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:aklists@mixdown.ca"
                            target="_blank">aklists@mixdown.ca</a><br>
                          > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:31:39 -0400<br>
                          > To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org"
                            target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a><br>
                          > Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Best place to
                          purchase Cat6 in K/W<br>
                          > <br>
                          > > On Jun 10, 2015, at 5:59 PM, B. S.
                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:bs27975@yahoo.ca"
                            target="_blank">bs27975@yahoo.ca</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
                          > > And ... just in case ... don't
                          forget, you'll want plenum rated cable,
                          regardless of what you go with. (Heat/fire
                          resistance.)<br>
                          > > (Dig into the kwlug archives within
                          the last year or two, search cat6, there will
                          be a group of messages from Cedric within that
                          thread. It was good reading. <br>
                          > > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://kwlug.org/pipermail/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org/"
                            target="_blank">http://kwlug.org/pipermail/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org/</a>
                          )<br>
                          > <br>
                          > It was actually a kwartzlab post. I dug
                          through and found it: <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://kwartzlab.ca/pipermail/discuss_kwartzlab.ca/2012-September/001193.html"
                            target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://kwartzlab.ca/pipermail/discuss_kwartzlab.ca/2012-September/001193.html">http://kwartzlab.ca/pipermail/discuss_kwartzlab.ca/2012-September/001193.html</a></a><br>
                          > <br>
                          > I’m looking at building a house and to be
                          honest, I’m far more inclined to put cat5e
                          throughout. Any truly long runs (say over 50m)
                          would be cat6, but my intention would be to
                          install a 3” metal conduit going from the
                          basement electrical room to the attic (and
                          another from the basement to some central
                          location on the main floor), and then
                          requiring ANY non-power cabling to be run
                          through them. I am not sure if I’d buy some
                          1/2” plastic conduit to run inside the walls
                          of a given level or not (i.e. from the central
                          conduit to a specific outlet) but I would ask
                          that all non-power wires be left loose in the
                          walls so I could more easily pull new cabling
                          if the need arose.<br>
                          > <br>
                          > Using a metal conduit between floors
                          might even alleviate the need for plenum-rated
                          cable, although to be honest most solid core
                          cable is plenum-rated anyway. You can find
                          1000 foot boxes of plenum rated, solid core
                          cat5e for about $45 on amazon, and I’d also
                          check with local contractor outlets like
                          Graybar to see what they can do (since you
                          wouldn’t have to pay for shipping).<br>
                          > <br>
                          > -A.<br>
                          > <br>
                          > <br>
                          > <br>
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