<div dir="ltr"><div><div>I think 2014 will be "The Year of the Articles about Articles about the Systemd Debate". Now even Linux Girl is getting into it, with the appropriately titled "Fanning the Flames of the Systemd Inferno"</div></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.technewsworld.com/story/80980.html">http://www.technewsworld.com/story/80980.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I should become a writer, and write about other peoples' blogs about blogs about the Linux debates, if but the madness doesn't take its toll....</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 September 2014 12:34, Khalid Baheyeldin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com" target="_blank">kb@2bits.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>That sums it up: <br><br>"Disclaimer: We are not sysvinit purists by any means. We do recognize the need for a new init system in the 21st century, but
systemd is not it."<br><br></div>As I said before, no one is objecting to faster booting and better syntax, with dependency startup. But systemd crams up way more than any sane daemon should do, and creates a long dependency chain, hence the objections.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Jeff Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><div dir="ltr">There's a new article on the systemd debate on the <a href="http://linuxbsdos.com" target="_blank">linuxbsdos.com</a> website:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/09/03/is-systemd-as-bad-as-boycott-systemd-is-trying-to-make-it/" target="_blank">http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/09/03/is-systemd-as-bad-as-boycott-systemd-is-trying-to-make-it/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>The author doesn't really make a strong case either way, but he does point out an anti-systemd website: <a href="http://boycottsystemd.org/" target="_blank">http://boycottsystemd.org/</a></div><div>
<br></div><div><br><br><div>> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 15:53:14 -0400<br>> From: <a href="mailto:opengeometry@yahoo.ca" target="_blank">opengeometry@yahoo.ca</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a><div>
<br>> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] What is all this about systemd?<br>> <br></div><div><div>> On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 03:09:25PM -0400, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:<br>> > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Paul Nijjar <<a href="mailto:paul_nijjar@yahoo.ca" target="_blank">paul_nijjar@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
> > <br>> > > Didn't these guys learn from the Java security debacle?<br>> > ><br>> > <br>> > The Java people did not learn anything. It is common practice in the Java<br>> > world to bundle everything in what you distribute with your app.<br>
> <br>> From Vendor perspective, there are advantages in support. Also, from<br>> customer perspective, if it doesn't work, it's the vendor's<br>> responsibility. There is less finger pointing.<br>
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