<div dir="ltr"><div>That sums it up: <br><br>"Disclaimer: We are not sysvinit purists by any means. We do recognize the need for a new init system in the 21st century, but
systemd is not it."<br><br></div>As I said before, no one is objecting to faster booting and better syntax, with dependency startup. But systemd crams up way more than any sane daemon should do, and creates a long dependency chain, hence the objections.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Jeff Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><div dir="ltr">There's a new article on the systemd debate on the <a href="http://linuxbsdos.com" target="_blank">linuxbsdos.com</a> website:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/09/03/is-systemd-as-bad-as-boycott-systemd-is-trying-to-make-it/" target="_blank">http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/09/03/is-systemd-as-bad-as-boycott-systemd-is-trying-to-make-it/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>The author doesn't really make a strong case either way, but he does point out an anti-systemd website: <a href="http://boycottsystemd.org/" target="_blank">http://boycottsystemd.org/</a></div><div>
<br></div><div><br><br><div>> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 15:53:14 -0400<br>> From: <a href="mailto:opengeometry@yahoo.ca" target="_blank">opengeometry@yahoo.ca</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a><div class="">
<br>> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] What is all this about systemd?<br>> <br></div><div><div class="h5">> On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 03:09:25PM -0400, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:<br>> > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Paul Nijjar <<a href="mailto:paul_nijjar@yahoo.ca" target="_blank">paul_nijjar@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
> > <br>> > > Didn't these guys learn from the Java security debacle?<br>> > ><br>> > <br>> > The Java people did not learn anything. It is common practice in the Java<br>> > world to bundle everything in what you distribute with your app.<br>
> <br>> From Vendor perspective, there are advantages in support. Also, from<br>> customer perspective, if it doesn't work, it's the vendor's<br>> responsibility. There is less finger pointing.<br>
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