<div dir="ltr">On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Paul Gallaway <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul@gallaway.ca" target="_blank">paul@gallaway.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">
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On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin <<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com">kb@2bits.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I was getting them all before I put in the mast,<br>
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</div>Here's where you can drive yourself crazy. Are you sure that putting<br>
it on the mast was the problem? Or was it a change in tropospheric<br>
conditions or another weather phenomenon?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The weather is absolutely a factor. <br></div><div>This was confirmed to me in the past few days.<br></div><div>On Friday (rainy, thunderstorms), many channels were glitchy.<br>
On Saturday late evening (calm weather), I go them all back, including CHCJ which is the hardest to get, and on top of all of them, I got WNLO (channel 23 from Buffalo) with a subchannel.<br></div><div>Today, it is gone, along with CHCJ. <br>
</div><div>Those 2 days, the mast and cable and everything were untouched.<br><br></div><div>Today, with the nice weather, I moved the mast to its final position, so have to wait and see.<br></div><div><br></div><div>My (almost) final lineup is:<br>
<br></div><div>Stable channels:<br><br></div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">Real Virtual Call Sign Network<br>
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<span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">20 5 CBLT CBC Toronto<br></span>17 6 CIII Global<br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">13 13 CKCO CTV<br>
</span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">15 11 CHCH From Hamilton</span><br><div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">25 25 CBLTF CBC Toronto French<br>
</span></div><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"></span><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">28 28 CICO TVO<br>
</span></div><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"></span>36 36 CITS From Hamilton</span><br><br></div><div>Once in a while channels:<br></div><div><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">35 35 CHCJ CTV Barrie<br>
</span></span><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">23 23.1 WNLO CW Buffalo<br></span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><span style="font-family:courier new,monospace">23 23.2 Bounce<br>
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<div class="">> Your DB8 + CM7777 are just getting two more from Toronto: Omni 1 (channel 40) and 2 (Ch 47). I do see a weak signal for them, as well as 32 from Buffalo (WLNO), but not enough for the TV to tune any of those three channels.<br>
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</div>I get CITY too.<br>
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Conversely, I look at your results and wonder what else you could get
with a higher position, a better antenna, and/or a preamp - I think
the glass half full / half empty analogy applies here, just not sure
who has the half empty glass :)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yeah, it seems to be that way. Can't get them all. Unless you have those antennas with one have pointed one way and the other half pointed another.<br>
<br></div><div>I would try a DB8 and CM7777 if someone was selling them locally so I can return them if they don't work. I went to Research Electronics in Frobisher, and bought some cable ...etc. and they said no returns on antennas. <br>
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Just keep in mind that what you get now may not be what you always
get. Some channels may improve, others may drop out seasonally or even
through the day. I'd be curious what changes you see from now through
next winter.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>From what I read, it seems summer brings in more channels, and they recede in winter.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div class="">My install was closer to $300 for antenna, preamp, mast,<br></div>
tripod, RG6, grounding materials, etc. Paid off by my cancelled basic
cable bill in about 10 months.I did the labour myself as well. I<br>
bought the DB8 in 2009 and it sat in my basement for two years so by
the time I got around to installing it really only felt like I was<br>
spending $200. There's always competing interests around the house,
and $300 could easily go into groceries.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't mind spending that much, if I am assured it will work before sinking all the money in. Turns out there is too much variation (terrain, altitude, distance, obstacles, direction, goblins, ...etc.) and there is no assurance what you can get unless you try and experiment with various permutations at your specific location.<br>
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My goal with my setup was to be able to get PBS (NOVA, Sesame Street, others). That's the one channel we still miss from basic cable. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>My plan for this is to try <a href="http://adfreetime.com">http://adfreetime.com</a> for DNS unlock, and watch the shows over the internet.<br>
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