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    If price was no obstacle, one could build a reasonably portable 8TB
    system that ran on 150W or less.<br>
    <br>
    If that is not the case, then the odor-free client + remote server
    route probably makes for sense.  If you can route a length of 10GbE
    fiber between the two, performance could be better than having
    everything in one box.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/07/2014 11:34 AM, CrankyOldBugger
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      <div dir="ltr">What if she mounted shares on a NAS box instead of
        local HDDs?
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 7 April 2014 11:32, Darcy Casselman
          <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:dscassel@gmail.com" target="_blank">dscassel@gmail.com</a>></span>
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              <div>1TB isn't nearly enough.<br>
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                More like 8.<br>
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              Darcy.<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:21 AM,
                L.D. Paniak <span dir="ltr"><<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:ldpaniak@fourpisolutions.com"
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                wrote:<br>
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                  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> OK.  What
                    amount of disk capacity are we talking about?
                    Anything up to 1TB can be done today for a
                    reasonable amount of coin on SSD.<br>
                    What are the interfaces for specialized hardware? 
                    PCIe? Interface count?<br>
                    <br>
                    I suspect you can build a remarkably fast system
                    inside of 150W with a bit of research.  Intel
                    E3-series v3 Xeons/Haswell CPUs pack a pile of
                    performance into 60-80W - at a decent price. 
                    Especially if the software uses recent instruction
                    extensions eg AVX.
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                        <div>On 04/07/2014 11:09 AM, Darcy Casselman
                          wrote:<br>
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                            <div>I'd agree, but she wants to do video
                              and audio rendering.  She needs multiple
                              spinning platter harddrives and some
                              specialist video capture and sound
                              hardware.<br>
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                            I was able to talk her down from needing a
                            750W+ power supply (she doesn't need 3D
                            graphics at all), but yeah, something in the
                            500W neighbourhood is more reasonable.<br>
                            <br>
                            Darcy.<br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 7, 2014
                              at 10:56 AM, L.D. Paniak <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                                #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I agree.  I
                                have been using pico-PSU/AC brick
                                solutions on systems up to<br>
                                100W with great success.  For 95%+ of
                                computing that more than enough to<br>
                                get the job done.<br>
                                <br>
                                There are many "mini-systems" of this
                                type available:<br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.canadacomputers.com/search_result.php?checkVal0=0&subcat04=5&checkVal1=1&checkVal2=1&checkVal3=1&checkVal4=1&checkVal5=1&checkVal6=1&checkVal7=1&checkVal8=1&checkVal9=1&pagePos=0&keywords=&manu=0&search=1&ccid=1203&cPath=7_1203"
                                  target="_blank">http://www.canadacomputers.com/search_result.php?checkVal0=0&subcat04=5&checkVal1=1&checkVal2=1&checkVal3=1&checkVal4=1&checkVal5=1&checkVal6=1&checkVal7=1&checkVal8=1&checkVal9=1&pagePos=0&keywords=&manu=0&search=1&ccid=1203&cPath=7_1203</a><br>
                                <br>
                                Especially good are the Intel NUC series
                                (if a little more expensive).<br>
                                <br>
                                I recently bought a 430W Corsair ATX PSU
                                and the smell of the fancy<br>
                                paint finish nearly knocked me off my
                                feet.  It took several days to<br>
                                dissipate. I am not sure what the
                                motivation is here.<br>
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                                    On 04/07/2014 10:44 AM, Jason
                                    Locklin wrote:<br>
                                    > Just for fun, this would be
                                    approximately the best you can do
                                    while<br>
                                    > staying safely under 150Watts
                                    and staying reasonably priced:<br>
                                    ><br>
                                    >> PCPartPicker part list: <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO"
                                      target="_blank">http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO</a><br>
                                    >> Price breakdown by
                                    merchant: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO/by_merchant/" target="_blank">http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO/by_merchant/</a><br>
                                    >> Benchmarks: <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO/benchmarks/"
                                      target="_blank">http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO/benchmarks/</a><br>
                                    >><br>
                                    >> CPU: Intel Core i3-2120T
                                    2.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($160.80
                                    @ Amazon Canada)<br>
                                    >> Motherboard: MSI H67MA-E35
                                    (B3) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
                                     ($88.02 @ Amazon Canada)<br>
                                    >> Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x
                                    8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($79.99 @
                                    Canada Computers)<br>
                                    >> Storage: Kingston SSDNow
                                    V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State
                                    Disk  ($129.99 @ NCIX)<br>
                                    >><br>
                                    >> Total: $458.80<br>
                                    >> Estimated Wattage: 109W<br>
                                    >><br>
                                    >> Prices include shipping,
                                    taxes, and discounts when
                                    available.)<br>
                                    >> (Generated by PCPartPicker
                                    2014-04-07 10:33 EDT-0400)<br>
                                    > That would scream running
                                    Linux, but would be lacking for
                                    gaming. No<br>
                                    > idea what Windows needs
                                    nowadays though. That website is too
                                    much fun.<br>
                                    > Now, back to work... right...<br>
                                    ><br>
                                    > -Jason<br>
                                    ><br>
                                    ><br>
                                    ><br>
                                    ><br>
                                    > On Mon 07 Apr 2014 10:02:49 AM
                                    EDT, Darcy Casselman wrote:<br>
                                    >> She has rather formidable
                                    power requirements, but we were
                                    talking about<br>
                                    >> whether something like this
                                    was available. I'll pass it along.
                                    Thanks.<br>
                                    >><br>
                                    >> Darcy.<br>
                                    >><br>
                                    >><br>
                                    >> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:51
                                    AM, Jason Locklin <<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:locklin.jason@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">locklin.jason@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
                                    >><br>
                                    >>> Have you thought of
                                    building a low-power system with
                                    something like one<br>
                                    >>> of these: <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104186"
                                      target="_blank">http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104186</a><br>
                                    >>><br>
                                    >>> Transformer is sealed
                                    in plastic, so no dust/smell from
                                    it. Thinking<br>
                                    >>> about building a system
                                    like this with one of the low-power
                                    Haswell<br>
                                    >>> chips and an SSD,
                                    myself (not for the smell, I just
                                    like<br>
                                    >>> power-efficient, quiet
                                    machines).<br>
                                    >>><br>
                                    >>> -Jason<br>
                                    >>><br>
                                    >>><br>
                                    >>> On 14-04-05 03:56 PM,
                                    Darcy Casselman wrote:<br>
                                    >>>> PC hardware
                                    question, not specific to Linux, but
                                    some of you folks may<br>
                                    >>> have<br>
                                    >>>> ideas.<br>
                                    >>>><br>
                                    >>>> My partner has some
                                    rather significant allergies and
                                    sensitivities.  She<br>
                                    >>>> also needs to
                                    replace her 12-year-old desktop
                                    computer.<br>
                                    >>>><br>
                                    >>>> In general
                                    electronics tend to be okay for her,
                                    but the power supply<br>
                                    >>> seems<br>
                                    >>>> to be a stumbling
                                    block.  New power supplies smell
                                    really bad, triggering<br>
                                    >>>> her sensitivities.
                                     And they're blowing that bad air
                                    into her living<br>
                                    >>> space.<br>
                                    >>>> Does anyone know of
                                    a retailer that sells power supplies
                                    that she'd be<br>
                                    >>> able<br>
                                    >>>> to crack open a
                                    bunch and give them a sniff-test?<br>
                                    >>>><br>
                                    >>>> Is there somewhere
                                    we can look at used power supplies,
                                    preferably from<br>
                                    >>>> hopefully neutral
                                    office environments (rather than,
                                    say, the homes of<br>
                                    >>>> smokers or pet
                                    owners)?<br>
                                    >>>><br>
                                    >>>> We're not entirely
                                    sure what it is in the power
                                    supplies that is<br>
                                    >>> triggering<br>
                                    >>>> her.  We know that
                                    the PVC wiring is bad (I'm not
                                    holding out much hope,<br>
                                    >>>> but if someone
                                    knows of a manufacturer that coats
                                    their wires in<br>
                                    >>> something<br>
                                    >>>> other than PVC,
                                    that would be very useful to know).
                                     But we've tried a<br>
                                    >>>> bunch and haven't
                                    come up with much luck.<br>
                                    >>>><br>
                                    >>>> Any suggestions
                                    would be helpful.<br>
                                    >>>><br>
                                    >>>> Thanks!<br>
                                    >>>> Darcy.<br>
                                    >>>><br>
                                    >>>><br>
                                    >>>><br>
                                    >>>>
                                    _______________________________________________<br>
                                    >>>> kwlug-disc mailing
                                    list<br>
                                    >>>> <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org"
                                      target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a><br>
                                    >>>> <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org"
                                      target="_blank">http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org</a><br>
                                    >>>><br>
                                    >>><br>
                                    >>> --<br>
                                    >>> -<br>
                                    >>> Jason Locklin<br>
                                    >>> <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://artsweb.uwaterloo.ca/%7Ejalockli"
                                      target="_blank">http://artsweb.uwaterloo.ca/~jalockli</a><br>
                                    >>> PGP: 9551 BD8F BCCC
                                    5763 9FD9 9C5E 99F2 DE4E 2972 C74D<br>
                                    >>><br>
                                    >>><br>
                                    >>>
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                                      target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a><br>
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                                    >><br>
                                    >><br>
                                    >>
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