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If price was no obstacle, one could build a reasonably portable 8TB
system that ran on 150W or less.<br>
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If that is not the case, then the odor-free client + remote server
route probably makes for sense. If you can route a length of 10GbE
fiber between the two, performance could be better than having
everything in one box.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/07/2014 11:34 AM, CrankyOldBugger
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<div dir="ltr">What if she mounted shares on a NAS box instead of
local HDDs?
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 7 April 2014 11:32, Darcy Casselman
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<div>1TB isn't nearly enough.<br>
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More like 8.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:21 AM,
L.D. Paniak <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> OK. What
amount of disk capacity are we talking about?
Anything up to 1TB can be done today for a
reasonable amount of coin on SSD.<br>
What are the interfaces for specialized hardware?
PCIe? Interface count?<br>
<br>
I suspect you can build a remarkably fast system
inside of 150W with a bit of research. Intel
E3-series v3 Xeons/Haswell CPUs pack a pile of
performance into 60-80W - at a decent price.
Especially if the software uses recent instruction
extensions eg AVX.
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<div>On 04/07/2014 11:09 AM, Darcy Casselman
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<div>I'd agree, but she wants to do video
and audio rendering. She needs multiple
spinning platter harddrives and some
specialist video capture and sound
hardware.<br>
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I was able to talk her down from needing a
750W+ power supply (she doesn't need 3D
graphics at all), but yeah, something in the
500W neighbourhood is more reasonable.<br>
<br>
Darcy.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 7, 2014
at 10:56 AM, L.D. Paniak <span dir="ltr"><<a
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I agree. I
have been using pico-PSU/AC brick
solutions on systems up to<br>
100W with great success. For 95%+ of
computing that more than enough to<br>
get the job done.<br>
<br>
There are many "mini-systems" of this
type available:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.canadacomputers.com/search_result.php?checkVal0=0&subcat04=5&checkVal1=1&checkVal2=1&checkVal3=1&checkVal4=1&checkVal5=1&checkVal6=1&checkVal7=1&checkVal8=1&checkVal9=1&pagePos=0&keywords=&manu=0&search=1&ccid=1203&cPath=7_1203"
target="_blank">http://www.canadacomputers.com/search_result.php?checkVal0=0&subcat04=5&checkVal1=1&checkVal2=1&checkVal3=1&checkVal4=1&checkVal5=1&checkVal6=1&checkVal7=1&checkVal8=1&checkVal9=1&pagePos=0&keywords=&manu=0&search=1&ccid=1203&cPath=7_1203</a><br>
<br>
Especially good are the Intel NUC series
(if a little more expensive).<br>
<br>
I recently bought a 430W Corsair ATX PSU
and the smell of the fancy<br>
paint finish nearly knocked me off my
feet. It took several days to<br>
dissipate. I am not sure what the
motivation is here.<br>
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On 04/07/2014 10:44 AM, Jason
Locklin wrote:<br>
> Just for fun, this would be
approximately the best you can do
while<br>
> staying safely under 150Watts
and staying reasonably priced:<br>
><br>
>> PCPartPicker part list: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO"
target="_blank">http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO</a><br>
>> Price breakdown by
merchant: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO/by_merchant/" target="_blank">http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO/by_merchant/</a><br>
>> Benchmarks: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO/benchmarks/"
target="_blank">http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO/benchmarks/</a><br>
>><br>
>> CPU: Intel Core i3-2120T
2.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($160.80
@ Amazon Canada)<br>
>> Motherboard: MSI H67MA-E35
(B3) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
($88.02 @ Amazon Canada)<br>
>> Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x
8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($79.99 @
Canada Computers)<br>
>> Storage: Kingston SSDNow
V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State
Disk ($129.99 @ NCIX)<br>
>><br>
>> Total: $458.80<br>
>> Estimated Wattage: 109W<br>
>><br>
>> Prices include shipping,
taxes, and discounts when
available.)<br>
>> (Generated by PCPartPicker
2014-04-07 10:33 EDT-0400)<br>
> That would scream running
Linux, but would be lacking for
gaming. No<br>
> idea what Windows needs
nowadays though. That website is too
much fun.<br>
> Now, back to work... right...<br>
><br>
> -Jason<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon 07 Apr 2014 10:02:49 AM
EDT, Darcy Casselman wrote:<br>
>> She has rather formidable
power requirements, but we were
talking about<br>
>> whether something like this
was available. I'll pass it along.
Thanks.<br>
>><br>
>> Darcy.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:51
AM, Jason Locklin <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:locklin.jason@gmail.com"
target="_blank">locklin.jason@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Have you thought of
building a low-power system with
something like one<br>
>>> of these: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104186"
target="_blank">http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104186</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Transformer is sealed
in plastic, so no dust/smell from
it. Thinking<br>
>>> about building a system
like this with one of the low-power
Haswell<br>
>>> chips and an SSD,
myself (not for the smell, I just
like<br>
>>> power-efficient, quiet
machines).<br>
>>><br>
>>> -Jason<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 14-04-05 03:56 PM,
Darcy Casselman wrote:<br>
>>>> PC hardware
question, not specific to Linux, but
some of you folks may<br>
>>> have<br>
>>>> ideas.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> My partner has some
rather significant allergies and
sensitivities. She<br>
>>>> also needs to
replace her 12-year-old desktop
computer.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In general
electronics tend to be okay for her,
but the power supply<br>
>>> seems<br>
>>>> to be a stumbling
block. New power supplies smell
really bad, triggering<br>
>>>> her sensitivities.
And they're blowing that bad air
into her living<br>
>>> space.<br>
>>>> Does anyone know of
a retailer that sells power supplies
that she'd be<br>
>>> able<br>
>>>> to crack open a
bunch and give them a sniff-test?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Is there somewhere
we can look at used power supplies,
preferably from<br>
>>>> hopefully neutral
office environments (rather than,
say, the homes of<br>
>>>> smokers or pet
owners)?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> We're not entirely
sure what it is in the power
supplies that is<br>
>>> triggering<br>
>>>> her. We know that
the PVC wiring is bad (I'm not
holding out much hope,<br>
>>>> but if someone
knows of a manufacturer that coats
their wires in<br>
>>> something<br>
>>>> other than PVC,
that would be very useful to know).
But we've tried a<br>
>>>> bunch and haven't
come up with much luck.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Any suggestions
would be helpful.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks!<br>
>>>> Darcy.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>
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