<div dir="ltr">There's hope for us yet: 1 gig internet is coming to Bracebridge: <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/1gb-internet-service-offered-to-muskoka-almaguin-municipalities-1.2588775?cmp=rss">http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/1gb-internet-service-offered-to-muskoka-almaguin-municipalities-1.2588775?cmp=rss</a><div>
<br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 March 2014 07:35, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chaslinux@gmail.com" target="_blank">chaslinux@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Actually they have fallen for us, twice over the past couple of years with Teksavvy DSL. First there was a price drop then a drop on the dry loop fee. All told we pay about 9 bucks less than we did 2 years ago.<br>
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Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Internet, Phone lines, TV. There can be only one?<br>
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Yes, the concept has been going on for years now - it's called convergence.<br>
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Much like the paperless office.<br>
<br>
It's why the carriers have been buying content - you need a reason to<br>
have to buy them, and not merely compete on price for the pipe. (As<br>
having to compete for only the pipe, based on price, will seriously<br>
erode their margins. And it has been. Thus their media campaigns and<br>
fighting tooth and nail every step of the way. Notice we're not much<br>
talking about tiered price range internet consumption any more -<br>
ultimately, eventually, and after everyone was exhausted with the issue,<br>
they lost their battle at the CRTC. So the real danger here is that they<br>
exhaust everyone, someone like Geist drops the ball / falls asleep at<br>
the wheel, people stop paying attention, and the incumbents squeak<br>
something through. And if they do, that squeak will become an<br>
ear-splitting cacophony. Their squeaks seem based in really big 'go big<br>
or go home' battles.)<br>
<br>
The other battleground is the idea of a 4th national cell/data carrier.<br>
Solution: Let the newcomer drown, then buy them. Other solution: Buy the<br>
content so consumers can only mobilely scratch that itch via a long term<br>
cell/data contract. Note roaming rates dropped, not cell or data costs,<br>
and price increases happened across the board earlier this year.)<br>
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Digital TV and VoIP has made all of this 'just data'. Delivered via the<br>
internet.<br>
<br>
The whole idea of HomePhone / FibeTV is nefarious - they use dedicated<br>
bandwidth off the same pipe. So much for the arguments that the pipes<br>
are only so big, or that there's not enough bandwidth for everyone.<br>
<br>
Stop the nonsense - just give me my pipe, the WHOLE pipe, at the same or<br>
lesser cost. I'll worry about what goes over it, myself, thank you very<br>
much.<br>
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Yet, what about those who want a turnkey solution - the traditional TV<br>
remote they've always had. Not having to worry about whether that signal<br>
is coming in via satellite, cable, or internet?<br>
<br>
I think the outstanding challenge is someone (FOSS, that is) bundling it<br>
all into a single cohesive, coherent, interface. Which is where Google<br>
may well come in. Control the interface, control the revenue stream, and<br>
the advertising opportunities. Thus Google will still have a choke hold<br>
on what succeeds and what doesn't. You can't be successful if you don't<br>
get carried.<br>
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Prices haven't fallen for TV or phone. Nor do I expect they ever will.<br>
(But they might not go up as fast as they might otherwise have.) Prices<br>
for long distance have fallen - due to competition.<br>
<br>
I'm not too hopeful about lots of competition in this converged world.<br>
<br>
Paperless Office? Still waiting. Convergence? Still waiting. My lifetime<br>
... probably not.<br>
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On 14-03-26 03:26 PM, Colin Mackay wrote:<br>
> So the recent thread about voicemail got me wondering about the big three<br>
> 'communications' portals in our lives.<br>
><br>
> The recent upstarts of IPTV, the voip options and all the radio online...<br>
> is this the beginning of the traditional models starting to coalesce into<br>
> one? It was always thought, or at least *I* always thought, that we'd<br>
> eventually have a single service come into the home and provide all<br>
> communications, be it one way or two way.<br>
><br>
> Until recently, I never really thought about it. Makes me wonder what the<br>
> big guys will do when all they offer is internet services and we have the<br>
> ability to get our TV, phone and radio all through 3rd parties.<br>
><br>
> Does anyone think prices for TV will fall, as they have for phone?<br>
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