<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>One more thing.<br><br></div>When we fix an old computer for someone we can only offer a 50/50 warranty on the computer at best: 50 keystrokes or 50 seconds, whichever comes first.<br><br></div>
Cheers<br></div>John<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:57 PM, John Kerr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johneddie.kerr@gmail.com" target="_blank">johneddie.kerr@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Sometimes automation happens in industry when adding more people will not increase production. The industrial revolution took place when labour was pretty cheep.<br>
<br></div>Is it correct to say as more people purchase laptops there are less computers to fix? There is no point to try to fix them, it will cost too much. <br>
<br></div>About 2 years ago I asked someone in a local computer shop about the repair business and he said that it is mostly about getting the data off of a failed computer and copying it to a new one. I asked him "has computer repair hit the wall of the law of diminishing returns?" and he said yes.<br>
<br></div><div>Take printer sales for example, it was over twenty years ago when a computer hardware supplier to the University of Guelph told me to go to Staples to buy a printer, we can't buy them for the pice they are selling them for. This was for a small office at the U of G.<br>
<br></div>Bob, I will send any business your way. But I am not surprised that you are not doing much business in repairs.<br><br></div>Cheers<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">John<br>
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On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:46 PM, unsolicited <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:unsolicited@swiz.ca" target="_blank">unsolicited@swiz.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On <a href="tel:13-10-29%2005" value="+13102905" target="_blank">13-10-29 05</a>:05 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote:<br>
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I don't expect Bob much wants such business.<br>
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Urm, let's not be putting words into Bob's mouth.<br>
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Absolutely. For which I do / did apologize.<br>
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I have made the assumption, perhaps erroneously, throughout, that we're talking (home) consumer, not business (user).<br>
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Business different beastie. Let alone easier / more predictable to get paid reasonable amounts, or offered the work in the first place.<br>
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The 30 hours I talk about has as much to do with putting in processes and programs and individual / personal training to prevent reoccurrence, as it does in initial remediation to return a system to usability in the first place. A fair bit of this is already in motion in any business, unlike the home user free for all. And a business can leverage a bit of individual training to the rest of their organization.<br>
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> Time is not valued.<br>
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Hmm. Rather, time is not deemed affordable.<br>
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(They'll spend millions to automate a plant so they don't have to use people. I'm sure there's a crossing line in there somewhere, but still trying to work that out - less employees, less money to spend in the community, less ability to buy product ... less need for automation.)[Other side: If you don't, your competitor will, and you'll be out of business anyways. Or at least have to reduce staff.]<div>
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> When people pay, they expect a tangible good in return.<br>
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Absolutely. They expect value. And they deserve it.<br>
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And as long as product price/performance ratios keep going down, the value being compared against (remediation time/cost) vs new product cost will continue to suffer. People time will continue to lose out, and lose out to larger and larger extents. Middle class, isn't any more, is shrinking - wage disparities continue to widen. (Because time isn't deemed affordable.)<br>
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They also expect the problem to be solved. Since one can't promise that, the problem / solution isn't yet known, and people don't like the uncertainty of T&E (Time and Expense, $X/hr - the problem takes as long as the problem takes to solve, charging throughout), they are even more reluctant to pursue repair. They know if they spend $x predictable dollars, they'll come out the other side with a guaranteed solved problem. vs the lack of guarantee that 2 hours will do it. (Like said, never mind this means a commitment on their part to re-learn and re-apply what they already have.)<div>
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> I don't think Paul was asking for an ROI analysis, just a list of repair shops.<br>
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Nor has anyone offered one.<div><br>
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> The quick and dirty answer is: Geek Squad at Best Buy/Futureshop,<br>
EasyTech at Staples, and Nerds On Wheels.<br>
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I have no reason to believe that is an answer, from what I've heard. At something like $75 / visit / issue, and a very narrow definition of 'issue' - if you need them it's seldom a single issue expense.<br>
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i.e. There is no answer - everything is cost prohibitive. For the home user not willing to figure it out themselves, or have some nice person do so for them.<br>
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I expect Canada Computer can be included in the above list - they may even give you a break if it's hardware and you buy a replacement from them. Wouldn't surprise me if installation were extra, though.<br>
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Of course ... YMMV.<div><div><br>
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