<html><head></head><body data-blackberry-caret-color="#00a8df" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: initial;"><div id="BB10_response_div" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="display:initial"></div> <div id="response_div_spacer" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I see cat 6 being useful for a few things. Although I use wifi for my laptop most of the time when I want to move lots of data I want a cable. The same goes for a PC which I still find useful. Access points can use it and I'd rather run a cable than use a mesh. Not only does a cable provide network it can provide power. I'd you have to bring one cable to a device why not a dual purpose cable. Videophiles might want less compression on their signal so might use cat 6 to carry hdmi instead of running hdmi cable. Security devices are a niche that still fits cabling ( though not generally cat6). </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">One probably will soon be able to use wireless entirely on every device for every reason. So call me old fashioned but a switched network always runs better than a share media network. </div> <div id="_signaturePlaceholder" style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div><div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Why cat6? Because if I'm running cable I go for price performance. </div><div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As for the quality of the cable install, Badly installed cat6 ( like a sharp bend radius) will have fewer failed packets than wifi and it won't have any collisions. Run you microwave and see if your tablet has wifi when your standing within ten feet of it. </div><div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Both have usefulness. </div><div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div> <table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px;"> <tbody><tr><td id="_persistentHeaderContainer" colspan="2" style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div id="_persistentHeader" style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, 'BB Alpha Sans', 'Slate Pro'; font-size: 10pt;"> <div><b>From: </b>unsolicited</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:30 AM</div><div><b>To: </b>KWLUG discussion</div><div><b>Reply To: </b>KWLUG discussion</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [kwlug-disc] CAT6 - worthwhile?</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div id="_persistentHeaderEnd" style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(186, 188, 209); border-top-width: 1pt; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div><br><div id="_originalContent" style="">OK, but my real basic question is, to what end?<br><br>Gigabit has even now not permeated enough of the world. (Why any laptop <br>still comes with 10/100 is beyond me). Even my USB 3.0 / gigabit adapter <br>can't saturate the gigabit.<br><br>Future proof for what (copper wise)?<br><br>If the world is going tablets and phones - that's wifi, not copper. Even <br>if you have copper and an AP at each room for wi-fi devices to connect <br>to, no amount of devices on that wi-fi will ever saturate the gigabit - <br>wi-fi will never be that fast. (?)<br><br>Home wise, I'm not prepared to even put out for multi-run bonding - the <br>equipment required at each end is extraordinarily expensive (for home). <br>I don't imagine it's any different for 10Gps CAT6 ethernet, let alone <br>fibre. And if it's fibre we get to, the copper run, 5e or 6, isn't going <br>to be useful.<br><br>So if most things can't saturate gigabit now, and fibre is going to need <br>another run anyways if we get there ... future proof for what (sorts of <br>beasties / media)?<br><br>I'm not objecting to 6 over 5e, I just wonder ... for what?<br>- especially given the more expensive equipment required at each switch <br>point, and the tighter bend and untwist limits for 6. I'd bet every home <br>6 installation breaks at each jack / switch / 5e device<->jack cable.<br><br>If you've bent a cable, what, more than 30 degrees, or untwisted a pair, <br>or untwisted pairs more than 1/2 inch - you've just made using cat 6 <br>pointless.<br><br><br>So my real question was ... what's coming that might need 6 over 5e?<br><br>In house HD video distribution?<br><br><br>On 13-10-25 04:57 PM, John Van Ostrand wrote:<br>> Personally I think any new installation should use Cat 6. It's only<br>> marginally more expensive than 5e but could future-proof your house a<br>> little more. That said 5e will perform very well in a house since runs tend<br>> to be short and will work in cases where Cat 6 is supposedly required. The<br>> way I look at it is that the time spend installing is the the most<br>> expensive cost (even when done yourself) so using a higher grade cable<br>> future-proofs so you can avoid pulling everything out and re-doing cable.<br>> Sometimes I'll use 5e jacks because those are easier to replace.<br>.<br>.<br>.<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>kwlug-disc mailing list<br>kwlug-disc@kwlug.org<br>http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org<br></div></body></html>