<div dir="ltr"><div>Personally I think any new installation should use Cat 6. It's only marginally more expensive than 5e but could future-proof your house a little more. That said 5e will perform very well in a house since runs tend to be short and will work in cases where Cat 6 is supposedly required. The way I look at it is that the time spend installing is the the most expensive cost (even when done yourself) so using a higher grade cable future-proofs so you can avoid pulling everything out and re-doing cable. Sometimes I'll use 5e jacks because those are easier to replace.<br>
<br>I prefer using cable because a switched network is far superior to a shared media network like wifi or powerline and it's nearly impossible to interfere with a discrete cabled network from outside the house.<br><br>
</div><div>Pulling the cable can be a bit of an art form. You need some tools like long drill bits (4' bits for example), punch-down tools and a tester. Cheap ones are available so you don't have to break your budget. The most common way of running a cable is to first cut a receptacle-sized hole in the wall and then drilling through the floor inside the wall cavity. This is assuming the area underneath is unfinished, or that you want to cut a hole in the wall below as well, say for an other jack. This is where the 4' drill comes in handy. A fish-tape can be pushed through the hole you made and the cable, or a piece of twine pulled back.<br>
</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Chris Irwin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris@chrisirwin.ca" target="_blank">chris@chrisirwin.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I didn't do conduit, but after each wall I labouriously fish cable through, I leave a guide string (which will hopefully stand the test of time).<br>
<br>Discussions of upgrading from 5e to 6 aside, I added a docking station for my laptop on my desk: Do I buy a desktop switch, or run a second cable through the wall? Second cable is cheaper, and doesn't have a wall-wart.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:11 PM, CrankyOldBugger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">If I had the money and the talents, I would put conduits in the house instead of just pulling cable. Then I'd be ready for whatever the next big technology is, with a easy way to change out the existing cables. But alas, I have neither!<div>
<br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 October 2013 14:55, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peter_melse@gto.net" target="_blank">peter_melse@gto.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:52:16 -0400, unsolicited <<a href="mailto:unsolicited@swiz.ca" target="_blank">unsolicited@swiz.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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[Thanks very much John, excellent.]<br>
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Re: CAT6<br>
<br>
I have always assumed there is no significant (home) benefit to CAT6<br>
over CAT5e, particularly given the additional handling 'difficulties'<br>
/ cost, especially as I never expect to have any home equipment better<br>
than 1 gigabit, full duplex even, to connect it to.<br>
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Have I assumed incorrectly in terms of benefits?<br>
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On <a href="tel:13-10-25%2009" value="+13102509" target="_blank">13-10-25 09</a>:26 AM, John Van Ostrand wrote:<br>
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I have two pairs at home, not the av speeds, slower. They work but not always<br>
flawlessly they tend to get warm so they suck a fair amount of energy.<br>
<br>
They have some drawbacks. They don't work across a transformer. Which usually<br>
isn't a problem unless you're trying to connect to a neighbour across the<br>
street. This also means that interference from a neighbour's powerline adapters<br>
is possible. And interloping is too.<br>
<br>
When you use more than one you are effectively setting up a shared media, unlike<br>
a switch. More like a hub or wifi access point.<br>
<br>
Also like wifi it's not easy to get the full bandwidth because like shared media<br>
collisions happen.<br>
<br>
Now that we are down to two in use (from four) they seem to operate well for<br>
Internet use. I'd be wary of pumping a lot of data across them, like a backup.<br>
<br>
The ones I have (dlink from years ago) have a password protect option. I bet<br>
this means a neighbour would have to spend 15 or 20 minutes to crack the security.<br>
<br>
I originally purchased them as a stop gap. We bought a house and I needed time<br>
to wire it. These gave access during the months it took me to pull cat 6.<br>
*From: *unsolicited<br>
*Sent: *Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:11 PM<br>
*To: *Kwlug-Disc<br>
*Reply To: *KWLUG discussion<br>
*Subject: *[kwlug-disc] Powerline networking - viable?<br>
<br>
<br>
Been minded that 'powerline' is out there, again. Poking about at Canada<br>
Computer, seems I see 3 manufacturers, D-Link, Netgear, Trendnet - no<br>
doubt all the same internals. Kits range from $55 - $100.<br>
<br>
From a bit of poking, I see claims of gigabit ports, but further<br>
reading reveals max. 500 Mbps transmission. (And they wonder why people<br>
mistrust marketers. The info. may be factual, but ...) (Tag seems to be<br>
'AV 500'.)<br>
<br>
Anyone have any experience with powerline / wisdom to share?<br>
<br>
- not trying to run multiple HD video streams, just get across a gym<br>
with very high ceilings that make a physical copper run problematic. One<br>
1280x800 ip cam stream reliably coming full bore would be desired, though.<br>
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In my (humble) opinion, it depends on if you forsee 802.3an (10gigabit ethernet) being used in the future consumer market. (at the rate these things seem to be moving, I'd count on it in the next 10 years, if the copper Ethernet standards remain attractive)<br>
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