<div dir="ltr"><div><div>That is odd.<br><br>I still have the two packages that your PC is trying to remove:<br><br># dpkg -l | grep python | grep minimal<br>ii python-minimal 2.7.3-0ubuntu2.2 minimal subset of the Python language (default version)<br>
rc python2.6-minimal 2.6.5-1ubuntu6 A minimal subset of the Python language (version 2.6)<br>ii python2.7-minimal 2.7.3-0ubuntu3.2 Minimal subset of the Python language (version 2.7)<br>
<br></div>FWIW, this is the line that causes Skype to be available in /etc/apt/sources.list<br><br>deb <a href="http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu">http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu</a> precise partner<br><br></div>Try an apt-get update perhaps?<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:06 PM, unsolicited <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:unsolicited@swiz.ca" target="_blank">unsolicited@swiz.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">[Wasn't doubting you Khalid, only saying not what I'm experiencing, even now.]<br>
<br>
[Pardon the length below. Most readers should skip it.]<div class="im"><br>
<br>
# dpkg -l | grep skype<br></div>
# arch<br>
x86_64<br>
# apt-get install skype<br>
Reading package lists... Done<br>
Building dependency tree<br>
Reading state information... Done<br>
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:<br>
libokteta1gui1 pwgen distro-info-data libopenbabel4 kdeartwork-style libndesk-dbus1.0-cil libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil kcharselect<br>
libkasten1core1 kanagram cervisia kdeartwork-theme-window libpackagekit-qt2-2 klettres libgtk-vnc-1.0-0 php5-xsl kgeography<br>
stellarium-data libhdb9-heimdal chkconfig libkasten1controllers1 libsamdb0 kstars syslinux-legacy kbruch quilt libgpds0<br>
libkasten1gui1 umbrello libboost-python1.46.1 parley kmplot libsmbios2 calligramobile libkasten1okteta1gui1 php5-tidy<br>
texmacs-common distro-info libmono-addins0.2-cil libndr-standard0 libkeduvocdocument4 rocs libboost-graph1.46.1 libbluedevil1<br>
ktouch mrwtoppm-data libsamba-credentials0 libkasten1okteta1core1 jpegoptim lokalize kwordquiz fckeditor step libgconfmm-2.6-1c2<br>
libgtkglext1 gnome-scan-common kdf stellarium libsmbclient-raw0 libtevent0 libart2.0-cil libuser1 localechooser-data<br>
libflickrnet2.2-cil ftplib3 khangman marble libsamba-util0 libindi0 libsoprano-dev libphp-pclzip libokteta1core1 libgnomescan0<br>
libldb1 libexif-gtk5 kpartloader kdesdk-kio-plugins cvsservice libsmbios-doc libgnome-keyring1.0-cil filelight<br>
libsamba-hostconfig0 okteta libtiff-tools kdesdk-misc kapptemplate ktouch-data kdesdk-strigi-plugins texlive-math-extra libaudit0<br>
libndr0 kgpg kuiviewer libgensec0 kturtle ktimer kdeartwork kmtrace libkasten1okteta1controllers1 celestia-glut<br>
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.<br>
The following extra packages will be installed:<br>
celestia-glut gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:<u></u>i386 gstreamer0.10-tools:i386 gvfs:i386 gvfs-libs:i386 jackd1 libasound2:i386<br>
libaudio2:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-dev:i386 libcdparanoia0:i386 libdatrie1:i386 libdbus-1-3:i386 libdrm2:i386 libexpat1:i386<br>
libffi6:i386 libfontconfig1:i386 libfreetype6:i386 libgcc1:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libglapi-mesa:i386 libglib2.0-0:i386<br>
libglu1-mesa:i386 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-<u></u>0:i386 libgstreamer0.10-0:i386 libice6:i386 libjack0 libjpeg-turbo8:i386<br>
libjpeg8:i386 liblcms-utils:i386 liblcms1:i386 libltdl-dev:i386 libltdl7:i386 libmng1:i386 libmysqlclient-dev:i386<br>
libmysqlclient18:i386 libogg0:i386 liborc-0.4-0:i386 libpcre3:i386 libpng12-0:i386 libqt4-dbus:i386 libqt4-declarative:i386<br>
libqt4-declarative-<u></u>folderlistmodel:i386 libqt4-declarative-gestures:<u></u>i386 libqt4-declarative-particles:<u></u>i386<br>
libqt4-declarative-shaders:<u></u>i386 libqt4-designer:i386 libqt4-dev:i386 libqt4-help:i386 libqt4-network:i386 libqt4-opengl:i386<br>
libqt4-qt3support:i386 libqt4-script:i386 libqt4-scripttools:i386 libqt4-sql:i386 libqt4-sql-sqlite:i386 libqt4-svg:i386<br>
libqt4-test:i386 libqt4-xml:i386 libqt4-xmlpatterns:i386 libqtcore4:i386 libqtgui4:i386 libqtwebkit4:i386 libselinux1:i386<br>
libsm6:i386 libsqlite3-0:i386 libsqlite3-dev:i386 libssl1.0.0:i386 libstdc++6:i386 libthai0:i386 libtheora0:i386 libtiff4:i386<br>
libudev0:i386 libuuid1:i386 libvisual-0.4-0:i386 libvisual-0.4-plugins:i386 libvorbis0a:i386 libvorbisenc2:i386 libx11-6:i386<br>
libx11-xcb1:i386 libxau6:i386 libxcb-glx0:i386 libxcb1:i386 libxdamage1:i386 libxdmcp6:i386 libxext6:i386 libxfixes3:i386<br>
libxi6:i386 libxml2:i386 libxrender1:i386 libxss1:i386 libxt6:i386 libxtst6:i386 libxv1:i386 libxxf86vm1:i386 linux-libc-dev:i386<br>
nas:i386 odbcinst1debian2:i386 qt4-dev-tools:i386 qt4-linguist-tools:i386 qt4-qmake:i386 qt4-qmlviewer:i386 qt4-qtconfig:i386<br>
skype-bin:i386 unixodbc-dev:i386 zlib1g:i386 zlib1g-dev:i386<br>
Suggested packages:<br>
libasound2-plugins:i386 libasound2-python:i386 glibc-doc:i386 locales:i386 manpages-dev:i386 gstreamer-codec-install:i386<br>
gnome-codec-install:i386 libtool-doc:i386 libpq-dev:i386 qt4-doc:i386 sqlite3-doc:i386 audiooss:i386 qt4-doc-html:i386<br>
Recommended packages:<br>
jackd1-firewire gcc:i386 c-compiler:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libqt4-opengl-dev:i386 libqtwebkit-dev:i386 libcups2:i386<br>
xml-core:i386 qt4-designer:i386 imagemagick:i386 gifsicle:i386 sni-qt:i386<br>
The following packages will be REMOVED:<br>
adept apparmor apper apport apport-gtk apport-kde apt-xapian-index aptdaemon apturl-common apturl-kde automoc backintime-common<br>
backintime-kde bluedevil bluez bluez-alsa bsh-gcj byobu bzr bzr-builddeb bzr-dbus bzr-gtk bzr-loom bzr-rewrite bzr-search bzr-svn<br>
bzrtools calligra-dev cameramonitor cdbs celestia celestia-gnome command-not-found coriander darktable debtags devhelp<br>
devhelp-common devscripts dia dia-common dia-libs diffuse dispcalgui docvert dot2tex dput dropbox editra evolution<br>
evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-dbg evolution-dbg evolution-exchange evolution-exchange-dbg evolution-plugins<br>
evolution-plugins-experimental evolution-webcal eyed3 f-spot firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-launchpad-plugin firestarter<br>
flegita-gimp foo2zjs foomatic-db-compressed-ppds gally gaupol gcj-4.6-jre-lib gconf2 gdb gdebi gdebi-core gdebi-kde gimp<br>
gimp-cbmplugs gimp-dimage-color gimp-flegita gimp-gmic gimp-gutenprint gimp-plugin-registry gimp-resynthesizer gimp-texturize<br>
gimp-ufraw gkdebconf gksu gnome-bluetooth gnome-control-center gnome-menus gnome-photo-printer gnome-user-share<br>
gpointing-device-settings gpsd-clients gstreamer-tools gstreamer0.10-packagekit gstreamer0.10-tools gsynaptics gtg gtkam-gimp<br>
gtkvncviewer hplip hplip-data hugin hugin-data hugin-tools indicator-power inkscape iotop isoquery jack-tools jackd2<br>
jackd2-firewire jockey-common jockey-kde kajongg kalzium kanyremote kcachegrind-converters kde-config-touchpad kde-full<br>
kde-sc-dev-latest kdeedu kdelibs5-dev kdesdk kdesdk-scripts kdeutils keepnote kig konq-plugins krosspython<br>
kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-full kubuntu-netbook-default-<u></u>settings kvm language-selector-common<br>
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libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk3-module libdcerpc0 libdevhelp-3-0 libevolution libgcj-bc libgcj-common libgcj12<br>
libgcj12-awt libgcj12-dbg libgksu2-0 libgnome-vfs2.0-cil libgnome2-0 libgnome2-bin libgnome2-common libgnome2-perl<br>
libgnome2-vfs-perl libgnome2.24-cil libgnomeui-0 libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnomevfs2-extra libgweather-3-0<br>
libgweather-common libhsqldb-java-gcj libjack-jackd2-0 liblo-dev liblo7 libmetacity-private0 libmuonprivate1 libmysqlclient-dev<br>
libphonon-dev libpq-dev libpurple-bin libpython2.7 libqt4-declarative-gestures libqt4-declarative-particles libqt4-dev<br>
libqt4-opengl-dev libqtwebkit-dev libregistry0 libreoffice-gnome libsamba-policy0 libsqlite3-dev libssl-dev libxine1-gnome<br>
logmein-hamachi lsb lsb-core lsb-cxx lsb-desktop lsb-graphics lsb-languages lsb-multimedia lsb-printing lsb-release me-tv<br>
metacity metacity-common mini-dinstall mozilla-gtk-vnc mrwtoppm-gimp muon muon-installer muon-notifier muon-updater<br>
network-manager-gnome nvidia-common openprinting-ppds openssl-blacklist openssl-blacklist-extra openvpn-blacklist packagekit<br>
packagekit-backend-aptcc pbuilder-uml pdftk php5-dev plasma-scriptengine-python plasma-scriptengine-<u></u>superkaramba<br>
plasma-widget-facebook printer-applet printer-driver-foo2zjs printer-driver-postscript-hp printer-driver-ptouch<br>
printer-driver-pxljr printer-driver-sag-gdi printer-driver-splix pxljr pyqt4-dev-tools python python-aeidon python-apport<br>
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python-central python-chardet python-cheetah python-configobj python-coverage python-crypto python-cups python-cupshelpers<br>
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python-egenix-mxstack python-egenix-mxtexttools python-egenix-mxtools python-egenix-mxuid python-egenix-mxurl python-enchant<br>
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python-gps python-gtk-vnc python-gtk2 python-gtk2-doc python-gtksourceview2 python-gtkspell python-httplib2 python-imaging<br>
python-imaging-dbg python-imaging-tk python-imaging-tk-dbg python-iniparse python-kde4 python-kerberos python-keyring<br>
python-launchpadlib python-lazr.restfulclient python-lazr.uri python-ldb python-levenshtein python-libsmbios python-libuser<br>
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python-memcache python-minimal python-newt python-nose python-notify python-numpy python-numpy-dbg python-oauth python-openssl<br>
python-packagekit python-pam python-pam-dbg python-paramiko python-parsedatetime python-pexpect python-pkg-resources<br>
python-problem-report python-pyasn1 python-pycurl python-pygments python-pyicu python-pyorbit python-pyparsing python-pyudev<br>
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python-reportbug python-reportlab python-reportlab-accel python-rsvg python-samba python-scour python-serial python-setuptools<br>
python-simplejson python-sip python-sip-dbg python-smbc python-soappy python-software-properties python-subunit python-subversion<br>
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python-twisted python-twisted-bin python-twisted-conch python-twisted-core python-twisted-lore python-twisted-mail<br>
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python-wsgi-intercept python-wxgtk2.6 python-wxgtk2.8 python-wxtools python-wxversion python-xapian python-xdg python-xkit<br>
python-xmmsclient python-zeitgeist python-zope.interface python2.7 python2.7-dbg python2.7-examples python2.7-minimal pyzor qemu<br>
qemu-kvm qt4-dev-tools qt4-linguist-tools qt4-qmake qt4-qmlviewer r-base-dev registry-tools reportbug rootstrap<br>
samba-dsdb-modules scribus semantik skencil smart-notifier smbios-utils software-properties-common software-properties-gtk<br>
software-properties-kde spambayes splix system-config-audit system-config-cluster system-config-date system-config-kickstart<br>
system-config-lvm system-config-printer-common system-config-printer-kde system-config-printer-udev system-config-samba taskcoach<br>
telepathy-sunshine texlive-extra-utils texlive-lang-all texlive-lang-indic texmacs tgif translate-toolkit<br>
ttf-mscorefonts-installer ubuntu-dev-tools ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-system-service ubuntu-vm-builder ufw unattended-upgrades<br>
unixodbc-dev update-manager update-manager-core update-manager-kde update-notifier update-notifier-common update-notifier-kde<br>
usb-creator-common usb-creator-kde userconfig vim webmin wicd wicd-daemon wicd-gtk wifi-radar x-tile xdiagnose xul-ext-ubufox<br>
xxdiff-scripts zeitgeist zeitgeist-core zeitgeist-datahub<br>
The following NEW packages will be installed:<br>
celestia-glut gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:<u></u>i386 gstreamer0.10-tools:i386 gvfs:i386 gvfs-libs:i386 jackd1 libasound2:i386<br>
libaudio2:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-dev:i386 libcdparanoia0:i386 libdatrie1:i386 libdbus-1-3:i386 libdrm2:i386 libexpat1:i386<br>
libffi6:i386 libfontconfig1:i386 libfreetype6:i386 libgcc1:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libglapi-mesa:i386 libglib2.0-0:i386<br>
libglu1-mesa:i386 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-<u></u>0:i386 libgstreamer0.10-0:i386 libice6:i386 libjack0 libjpeg-turbo8:i386<br>
libjpeg8:i386 liblcms-utils:i386 liblcms1:i386 libltdl-dev:i386 libltdl7:i386 libmng1:i386 libmysqlclient-dev:i386<br>
libmysqlclient18:i386 libogg0:i386 liborc-0.4-0:i386 libpcre3:i386 libpng12-0:i386 libqt4-dbus:i386 libqt4-declarative:i386<br>
libqt4-declarative-<u></u>folderlistmodel:i386 libqt4-declarative-gestures:<u></u>i386 libqt4-declarative-particles:<u></u>i386<br>
libqt4-declarative-shaders:<u></u>i386 libqt4-designer:i386 libqt4-dev:i386 libqt4-help:i386 libqt4-network:i386 libqt4-opengl:i386<br>
libqt4-qt3support:i386 libqt4-script:i386 libqt4-scripttools:i386 libqt4-sql:i386 libqt4-sql-sqlite:i386 libqt4-svg:i386<br>
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libudev0:i386 libuuid1:i386 libvisual-0.4-0:i386 libvisual-0.4-plugins:i386 libvorbis0a:i386 libvorbisenc2:i386 libx11-6:i386<br>
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libxi6:i386 libxml2:i386 libxrender1:i386 libxss1:i386 libxt6:i386 libxtst6:i386 libxv1:i386 libxxf86vm1:i386 linux-libc-dev:i386<br>
nas:i386 odbcinst1debian2:i386 qt4-dev-tools:i386 qt4-linguist-tools:i386 qt4-qmake:i386 qt4-qmlviewer:i386 qt4-qtconfig:i386<br>
skype skype-bin:i386 unixodbc-dev:i386 zlib1g:i386 zlib1g-dev:i386<br>
WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.<br>
This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!<br>
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0 upgraded, 108 newly installed, 478 to remove and 11 not upgraded.<br>
Need to get 73.6 MB of archives.<br>
After this operation, 1,205 MB disk space will be freed.<br>
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I don't think so, Tim!<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<br>
On 13-09-25 06:09 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
For months after I upgraded, I could not get Skype to work.<br>
<br>
But, now it is installed, as evidenced by:<br>
<br>
# dpkg -l | grep skype<br>
ii skype 4.2.0.11-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 client for Skype VOIP and instant<br>
messaging service<br>
ii skype-bin:i386 4.2.0.11-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 client for Skype VOIP and<br>
instant messaging service - binary files<br>
<br>
And:<br>
# arch<br>
x86_64<br>
<br>
Here are the commands I used to get it to installed, from my shell history:<br>
<br>
aptitude install skype (lots of dependencies and conflicts)<br>
apt-get install skype (works)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:31 PM, unsolicited<<a href="mailto:unsolicited@swiz.ca" target="_blank">unsolicited@swiz.<u></u>ca</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
[THANK YOU KHALID! But no joy - same thing. And this was even with treat<br>
recommends as required turned off, in aptitude when I tried before.]<br>
<br>
Let us know how it goes (Linux / Hangouts) please.<br>
<br>
I've only barely poked my finger in Hangouts, once, windows. Not Linux yet.<br>
<br>
But I have been playing with quite a number of sip softphones, both Linux<br>
and Windows, recently. Linux seems to consistently do better than Windows,<br>
strangely, but all have been rather ... broken.<br>
(And Win XP better than Win 7, even.)<br>
<br>
[Strange only in that device wise Windows has often been more solid than<br>
Linux. Not this time. Software wise it's not strange that Linux does<br>
better.]<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 13-09-25 02:03 PM, CrankyOldBugger wrote:<br>
<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
I hate Skype for no other reason that the amount of spam I get with it.<br>
Everyday there's some hot girl from some country I've never heard of<br>
begging to be my friend. I know some of you guys get this in real life<br>
all<br>
the time, but in Skype it's annoying!<br>
<br>
So I welcome a replacement for Skype.<br>
<br>
Installing the Hangout extensions now, thanks for pointing them out.<br>
<br></div></div>
On 25 September 2013 13:44, unsolicited<unsolicited@swiz.*<u></u>*ca<<a href="mailto:unsolicited@swiz.ca" target="_blank">unsolicited@swiz.ca</a>>><div class="im"><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
Google talk (xabber) notifications have now been showing up in Hangouts<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
on<br>
my Android phone.<br>
<br>
I see in Chrome (extension and app) that Hangouts can now call landlines.<br>
(A for fee service with Skype.)<br>
<br>
Has Hangouts become a Skype killer?<br>
(Have never been able to install Skype on my 64-bit Kubuntu 12.04 LTS -<br>
it<br>
wants to add a zillion i386 packages / remove a bunch of current ones.<br>
I'm<br>
hoping my next install, probably SuSe will avoid that. Thus has Google /<br>
Chrome / Hangouts become more ubiquitous than Skype?)<br>
<br>
Does YouTube and Hangouts now overlap? To what extent?<br>
<br>
Not suggesting it be used for kwlug meetings, but it seems that people<br>
are<br>
using Hangouts for meetings / presentations, not just video calls.<br>
<br>
Convergence?<br>
<br>
(Avoidance of Skype / MS / 3rd party on ChromeBooks?)<br>
</blockquote></div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<br>
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