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    Interesting.  Hopefully they will leverage the CM/mod community
    efforts for the plumbing and have a full-fledged Ubuntu userspace on
    top of it.  It would be a pity to replicate that work.<br>
    <br>
    Maybe one day one will be able to have a decent "Ubuntu VM"
    experience on a phone (Ubuntu for Android?), but I think that is
    still in the future.  The closer to metal Ubuntu on the phone is,
    the more successful it will be.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/11/2013 10:07 AM, Darcy Casselman
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>My impression (based on what people have said in videos and
          Q&As and not much more): It's using the Android kernel and
          drivers, but not much more from Android land.<br>
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        My take: Nexus devices may very well run it fine. Handset
        manufacturers who rolled their own kernel or are using binary
        blobs, not so much. A better yardstick than "if it runs
        Android..." is probably "if you can install Cyanogen, you can
        install Ubuntu."<br>
        <br>
        Darcy.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:25 AM, L.D.
          Paniak <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ldpaniak@fourpisolutions.com" target="_blank">ldpaniak@fourpisolutions.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Interesting.  This
              will answer the question of just how
              close-to-metal(plastic?) the Ubuntu Phone OS is.  From
              what you say, it sounds more like an application.<br>
              <br>
              The Ubuntu Nexus 7 image is a standalone firmware image
              based on the Android kernel for the Tegra3 processor.  I
              would be surprised if it ran on any non-Tegra3  hardware
              like the Nexus S.  With a pile of work, you might be able
              to get it to run on something like this:<br>
              <br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/HTC-One-x-Plus/#specs"
                target="_blank">http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/HTC-One-x-Plus/#specs</a><br>
              <br>
              I, for one, am looking forward to the unification of the
              Linux ARM universe.
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                  <div>On 01/11/2013 09:01 AM, Darcy Casselman wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">An Ubuntu Phone OS build is supposed
                      to drop Real Soon Now.  All the demos have been on
                      Galaxy Nexus, but they've said if it runs Android,
                      it should run Ubuntu.  <br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at
                        1:48 AM, Chamunks Arkturus <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:chamunks@gmail.com"
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                          <div dir="ltr">How far do you think this is
                            away from running on a nexus s?</div>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 9,
                                  2012 at 10:01 AM, L.D. Paniak <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:ldpaniak@fourpisolutions.com"
                                      target="_blank">ldpaniak@fourpisolutions.com</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
                                      text="#000000"> The "Raring" alpha
                                      is now available:<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation#Installing_Ubuntu_13.04_on_Nexus_7"
                                        target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation#Installing_Ubuntu_13.04_on_Nexus_7</a><br>
                                      <br>
                                      Most of the bugs from the 12.10
                                      version appear to have been ironed
                                      out and performance is improved. 
                                      Sizing the desktop for the amount
                                      of available real estate is still
                                      an issue, but all in all I find it
                                      a useful upgrade.  The amount of
                                      flexibility it brings to a rather
                                      capable hardware platform is
                                      impressive.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Next stop:  VNC server <br>
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                                        <div> <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div>On 12/09/2012 09:15 AM,
                                            Raul Suarez wrote:<br>
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                                          <blockquote type="cite">And I
                                            was impressed of how well it
                                            ran. It seems quite "driver
                                            complete".<br>
                                            <br>
                                            If I had a tablet to play I
                                            would have left it
                                            installed.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Darcy Casselman <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:dscassel@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank"><dscassel@gmail.com></a>
                                            wrote:<br>
                                            <br>
                                            As I understand it, the
                                            intent of this beta release
                                            isn't to provide a nice user
                                            interface. I gather that's
                                            coming. It's to ensure all
                                            the underlying
                                            hardware-related OS stuff
                                            works well on this one
                                            reference platform. WiFi,
                                            battery life, camera, on
                                            screen keyboard, rotation
                                            (which is still in progress,
                                            apparently), etc...<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Darcy.<br>
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                                              <br>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at
                                                11:54 PM, Raul Suarez <span
                                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rarsa@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rarsa@yahoo.com</a>></span>
                                                wrote:<br>
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                                                      <div>I did it last
                                                        week, Installing
                                                        was a breeze,
                                                        Instructions to
                                                        reflash the
                                                        stock android
                                                        also a breeze</div>
                                                      <div><br>
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                                                      <div>The good:</div>
                                                      <div> - Great job
                                                        to make it run,
                                                        most of what I
                                                        tested works (I
                                                        couldn't get
                                                        sound) Wifi
                                                        worked and the
                                                        browsed worked
                                                        well.</div>
                                                      <div> <br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Where it
                                                        still needs
                                                        improvement:</div>
                                                      <div> - To slow to
                                                        be usable</div>
                                                      <div>- Font too
                                                        small</div>
                                                      <div> </div>
                                                      <div> Note that
                                                        this is not the
                                                        same solution as
                                                        having Ubuntu
                                                        and Android side
                                                        by side on the
                                                        device.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Raul Suarez<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Technology
                                                        consultant<br>
                                                        Software,
                                                        Hardware and
                                                        Practices<br>
_________________<br>
                                                        Twitter: rarsamx<br>
                                                        <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://rarsa.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://rarsa.blogspot.com/</a><br>
                                                        An eclectic
                                                        collection of
                                                        random thoughts<br>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          <b><span
                                                          style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                                                          Sunday,
                                                          October 28,
                                                          2012 7:45:58
                                                          PM<br>
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                                                          Nexus7/Installation
                                                          - Ubuntu Wiki<br>
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                                                          Has anyone out
                                                          there tried
                                                          this?<br>
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                                                          Apparently it
                                                          is a
                                                          development
                                                          project at
                                                          this point,
                                                          but the
                                                          reported<br>
                                                          bugs do not
                                                          include the
                                                          terms
                                                          "initrd",
                                                          "soft lock"
                                                          nor even
                                                          "wifi" so<br>
                                                          it might not
                                                          be too bad...<br>
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