<html><head/><body><html><head></head><body>I use roundcube and I'm pretty sure it supports caldav using the calendar plugin from <a href="http://myroundcube.com">myroundcube.com</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Bob Jonkman <bjonkman@sobac.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap:break-word; font-family: sans-serif; margin-top: 0px">I've often thought that a Project Management application could use<br />CalSch standards to store tasks and sub-tasks (nested without limit),<br />and vCards for resources. The output could be entirely iCal and vCard<br />feeds, compatible with any calendaring software. Add some basic mail<br />functionality (Zawinski's Law for servers), and you'd have a dandy<br />Project Management/Calendar/Mail system. Haven't found any such software<br />yet..<br /><br />I am still looking for a Free/Libre calendar/mail server. I just<br />uninstalled Zimbra Open Source; partly due to admin interface<br />shortcomings (lack of granularity in managing the non-standard,<br />out-of-date Postfix server), partly lack of full calendar integration<br />(no CalDAV; no iCal feeds for input), and partly because of a dependency<br />on Adobe Flash for admin reports.<br /><br />About two years ago I
installed Kolab, but at that time the version in<br />the Ubuntu repositories wasn't supported by <a href="http://kolab.org">kolab.org</a>, and the version<br />distributed by <a href="http://kolab.org">kolab.org</a> used a proprietary package manager (which I<br />think is no longer supported either).<br /><br />I've been making a list at<br /><a href="http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2012/10/12/calendaring-server-software">http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2012/10/12/calendaring-server-software</a>/ If<br />anyone can help fill in the blanks, or has additional recommendations<br />please let me know.<br /><br />--Bob.<br /><br />Bob Jonkman <bjonkman@sobac.com> <a href="http://sobac.com/sobac">http://sobac.com/sobac</a>/<br />SOBAC Microcomputer Services Phone: +1-519-669-0388<br />6 James Street, Elmira ON Canada N3B 1L5 Cell: +1-519-635-9413<br />Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting<br /><br /><br /><br />On 12-10-22 07:2
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unsolicited wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">To your point(s) ...<br /><br />I came across yesterday somewhere that Google only just announced <br />CardDAV support in the last few weeks.<br /><br />On 12-10-04 06:35 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">I've been using Google Calendar for events for years, even when I<br />was still using a paper-based appointment book (long since<br />abandoned). Google is one of the few calendar providers that comes<br />close to following the IETF CalSch standards (RFC5545 et al).<br /><br />I don't use tasks much, but the calendar Web interface for tasks<br />does have a "completed" status and indicator (either a check mark<br />for complete items, or an empty checkbox for incomplete items).<br />I'm using <br /><a
href="https://google.com/calendar/render?gsessionid=<SomeHexNumber>">https://google.com/calendar/render?gsessionid=<SomeHexNumber></a>; with <br />Chromium or Firefox.</blockquote><br />Yep. Ugly. (Web interface.) Wish there were a standalone java / Linux<br />/ Windows app. (Preferably all 3.) But I don't know of any.<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">The Google task list shows up as another calendar instance in the<br />Web calendar interface, but the tasks do not seem to appear in any<br />of the calendars; the tasks seem to be in some other calendar<br />store. I've added my Google calendars to the Thunderbird Lightning<br />plugin. I cannot see the tasks in those calendars, and it does not<br />seem that I can export the task list, or link to it.</blockquote><br />Lightning doesn't understand tasks / anything that isn't a calendar. <br />[Not to say there aren't add
ons out
there fudging it (somewhat?).<br />e.g. Toodledo. And not to say it doesn't have (internal) tasks.] They<br />just haven't gotten that far / sync wise. I doubt that they will any<br />time soon. Calendars are a big enough ongoing problem, development is<br />being scaled back on TB, ...<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">I've also added a bunch of external calendars to my Google<br />calendar list, including the .ics link from Meetup, and the iCal<br />link from <a href="http://sobac.com/~stopthestink/events-calendar">http://sobac.com/~stopthestink/events-calendar</a>/ That<br />all seems to work fine.<br /><br />I'm not using the Google calendar app for Android, but the mobile<br />web interface for tasks:<br /><a href="http://mail.google.com/tasks?source=mog&gly=ca">http://mail.google.com/tasks?source=mog&gly=ca</a> (which will redirect<br />to the mobile Task interface o
n an
Android phone).</blockquote><br />Yeah, there's that, or the similar widget for calendars. Right-side <br />loading that will also expand out, screen wise. Just like gmail<br />version does.)<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">So, if you want to use Google Tasks, stick to their Web interface, <br />either desktop or mobile.</blockquote><br />I don't actually know of any (standalone) desktop apps that will<br />deal with gtasks. See TaskUnifier on sourceforge for the sort of<br />thing I mean, vs. inclusion in an awkward user interface within<br />korganizer, evolution, etc.<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">If you want tasks integrated with events (with import/export) try <br />Thunderbird's Lightning plugin. Not sure how conformant Lightning<br />tasks are to the CalSch standards.<br />
<br
/>I've used Evolution for event scheduling as well, but I don't<br />remember how well it handles tasks or how conformant it is to<br />standards.<br /><br />From RFC5545, a task (called a "To-Do") is an event with rollover<br />and completion - if a task has no completed date then it appears<br />the next day. If there is a due date then it can appear as<br />"overdue" when it rolls past the due date. If there is a start<br />date then it does not appear in the task list until that date.</blockquote><br />It's subtasks that are the real showstopper. Very few facilities<br />have them (except for google) - which means there's little point to<br />google having them / using them - they can't sync anywhere / lack of <br />standalone/desktop) interface. e.g. Toodledo claims subtasks, but<br />it's only 1 level. Beats me how they get away with such<br />marketing-speak.<br /><br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8;
padding-left: 1ex;">RFC5545: <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5545">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5545</a><br /><br />On 12-10-01 06:01 PM, unsolicited wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;">One of the annoying things about (Google) calendar is that it has<br />no sense of tasks as events (or vice versa). [Never mind google<br />tasks for the purpose of this message.]<br /><br />It just occurred to me I could create two calendars, 'mycal'<br />(shown) and 'mycal-done' (not shown). When a meeting has<br />happened, for example, moving the event from 'mycal' to<br />'mycal-done' would be the equivalent to marking the meeting as<br />completed. (Or cancelled.) Turning the display of 'mycal-done'<br />on/off would be the equivalent to ticking (or not) 'Show <br />Completed'.<br /><br />It also occurs to me that if one has a regular 'project' [never<br />mind that by definition a pro
ject is
unique], one could export<br />the (calendar) project as a .csv, edit the dates for the next<br />round, and import the modified .csv.<br /><br />[<tongue in cheek> Should I be looking to apply for a software<br />patent for these ideas?]<br /><br />Any reasons why approaching these these ways doesn't make sense /<br />are there better ways?<br /><br />Anyone know of any good web places where such tips and 'tricks'<br />are bandied about?<br /><br />[It appears to be pointless to hold one's breath that google will<br />ever add the concept of 'complete' to calendar events / integrate<br />tasks into calendar - a la Palm Desktop / Agendus / DateBk.]</blockquote><br /></blockquote><hr />kwlug-disc mailing<br />list kwlug-disc@kwlug.org <br /><a href="http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org">http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org</a></blockquote><br /></pre><p style="margin-top: 2.5em; margin-bottom: 1em; border-bottom: 1px solid #000"></p><p
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