<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">This is probably the chassis you would want today:</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a href="http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/4U/6047/SSG-6047R-E1R36N.cfm" target="_blank" class="vt-p" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">http://www.supermicro.com/products/syste</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><font color="#1155cc" face="arial, sans-serif"><u>This is probably the chassis you would want today:</u></font></blockquote>
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<font color="#1155cc" face="arial, sans-serif"><u><a href="http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/4U/6047/SSG-6047R-E1R36N.cfm">http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/4U/6047/SSG-6047R-E1R36N.cfm</a></u></font></blockquote>
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<font color="#1155cc" face="arial, sans-serif"><u>"Green" drives in storage arrays tend to cause problems because they are</u></font></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<font color="#1155cc" face="arial, sans-serif"><u>always spinning down. The Western Digital Black series is a much better</u></font></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<font color="#1155cc" face="arial, sans-serif"><u>choice.</u></font></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<a href="http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/4U/6047/SSG-6047R-E1R36N.cfm" target="_blank" class="vt-p" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">m/4U/6047/SSG-6047R-E1R36N.cfm</a><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);width:16px;height:16px;display:inline-block">
</div><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">"Green" drives in storage arrays tend to cause problems because they are</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">always spinning down. The Western Digital Black series is a much better</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">choice.</span></blockquote><div>Fair call about the Green drives my storage system really doesn't serve files to hundreds of people just me so my needs were more focused on power consumption than speed but it would be nice if they were a bit perkier and freenas does have settings to increase their level of aliveness. But I've got that all tuned down pretty far also. Kind of stinks on the rare occasion that I do need it to be a bit more expedient but otherwise its fine.</div>
<div> </div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Kiwi Ssennyonjo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kiwi@ssenn.com" target="_blank" class="vt-p">kiwi@ssenn.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Amazing feed back.<br>
<br>
-so far most of you are most interested in a discussion about storage;<br>
the different levels of purpose.<br>
<br>
-can do that.<br>
<br>
I will share with you how to put together a compliant shared storage<br>
for your virtualization needs, -not just VMWare.<br>
<br>
I can talk about recommended practices for building a robust array for<br>
a budget.<br>
<br>
There are three vendors that I have tested.<br>
-open filer<br>
-freenas<br>
-nexenta<br>
<br>
They all have pros and cons but the one I would use in production is Nexenta.<br>
<br>
Please continue to share your interests.<br>
<br>
I have to figure out the best way to show you these products.<br>
<br>
Another topic is cluster file systems.<br>
<br>
I am currently studying so that I am not too biased towards VMFS.<br>
<div class="im HOEnZb"><br>
<br>
-Kiwi<br>
<br>
On 2012-07-23, at 22:03, Paul Nijjar <<a href="mailto:paul_nijjar@yahoo.ca" class="vt-p">paul_nijjar@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
><br>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> So I ran into Kiwi this weekend, and we got talking about KWLUG<br>
> presentations.[0] He would like to give another presentation soon, but<br>
> he is not sure what would be popular/appreciated, and he is too shy(!)<br>
> to ask on the list himself.<br>
><br>
> Context:<br>
> - Kiwi works for VMware and knows a lot about that product (especially<br>
> the storage side), and his tendency is present something in this<br>
> area.<br>
> - He wants to cater the presentation to the interests of members<br>
> - He is aware that marketing heavy (and proprietary-heavy)<br>
> presentations tend not to go over well in this group<br>
><br>
><br>
> Here are some (although probably not all) of the ideas we threw<br>
> around:<br>
><br>
> 0. His experiences in putting together a lab of two virtual ESX hosts<br>
> serving 20 or so thin clients.<br>
><br>
> 1. A "deep dive" discussion of some aspect of virualization and/or<br>
> VMware. Kiwi suggested looking through logs to diagnose common<br>
> problems as one issue.<br>
><br>
> 2. Implementing a lab in an open-source virtualization product (and<br>
> maybe comparing it to VMware).<br>
><br>
> 3. A discussion of cluster filesystems and what they have to offer.<br>
><br>
> 4. His experiences in building a cheap but robust SAN using a chassis,<br>
> a bunch of SATA drives, and the Nexenta OpenSolaris distro.<br>
><br>
> 5. A discussion of the free (gratis) VMware products and how far you<br>
> can get with them before you need to purchase components of the VMware<br>
> ecosystem.<br>
><br>
><br>
> I realize that it will be difficult to come to a consensus on which<br>
> presentation Kiwi should give in this thread. But hopefully your<br>
> responses can help guide him to choosing a topic or two. So what<br>
> sounds interesting to you? What related topics would you like to see<br>
> presented?<br>
><br>
> - Paul<br>
><br>
><br>
> [0] Lest this be interpreted as yet another reason to avoid<br>
> associating with me, please be assured that I am not obsessed about<br>
> this topic.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> <a href="http://pnijjar.freeshell.org" target="_blank" class="vt-p">http://pnijjar.freeshell.org</a><br>
><br>
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