A company that sleeps th shoots itself in the foot deserves what is coming, whether it is open or closed source is irrelevant.<br><br>They rested on their laurels while Apple grew from nothing to what they are now, then slept through the whole Android thing as well.<br>
<br>And they still just keep doing more of the same, push email, blah blah, ...etc.<br><br>Regardless of their open source stance, they need to do something different or risk serious consequences ...<br><br>Nortel was a Canadian company too, remember ... What did they do to themselves?<br>
<br>No, I don't wish RIM any ill. They are important for Canada and the local economy. But the way things are going, they are "coasting" as William said. <br><br>Side note: If Microsoft was in Waterloo, would I support it? Still no. RIM is not Microsoft for sure, they don't have a monopoly of a market, ...etc.<br>
<br>On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:52 AM, John Van Ostrand <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john@netdirect.ca">john@netdirect.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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I was reading for RIM's benefit not open source's. RIM is important to this community and I think to Canada so I focussed on that.<br>
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The positives for RIM are the comments about RIMs financial strength and the word to developers that they will continue to exist; the between the lines message that RIM hired an ex developer for relations; the statement that they are looking at the problems seen in other environments. I hope this insight and the opportunity to re-invent gives them a leapfrog advantage.<br>
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Most of the side-steps were reasonable, like not being part of the BBM group. The Netflix probably fell within his purview but I think he made it clear it wasn't an important item for RIM. He side stepped the question about early release, but this is marketing and I think it was wise to avoid that.<br>
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The anti-open source message about QNX is disappointing. Is that really FUD about android? I have a tablet and lots of the apps seem to be calling home. I'm tired of apps that ask for a wide range of permissions just to play a game and only work when they have wifi access. I don't like the idea of a walled garden either but I'm not convinced that is the case for the Playbook.<br>
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> Yes,<br>
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> All the answers were wishi washi and dismisive of the concerns of the<br>
> users/clients<br>
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> The comment about open source tells me he doesn't understand the<br>
> model. The FUD about android.<br>
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> I'll ask you the question: what do you see as positive?<br>
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> On Tue, 17 Jan, 2012 9:44 AM EST John Van Ostrand wrote:<br>
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> >> VP for developer relations on the state of affairs and FLOSS FUD:<br>
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