25k? Wow. Well, if I win on my scratch ticket here, I'll get right on that. ;)<br><br>What was the monthly cost of traffic for the fiber?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Insurance Squared Inc. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gcooke@insurancesquared.com">gcooke@insurancesquared.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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I'm sure we have the skills. I suspect the skills aren't even that
difficult. The problem is getting an endpoint for the wireless traffic
and dumping that onto the web somehow that doesn't involve Bell. <br>
<br>
And that end point connection isn't initially scalable. Someone's got
to have something like a fibre line and those aren't cheap. However if
you have one, I'd be happy to piggy back on yours :). <br>
<br>
Google even tried to blanket San Francisco with free wireless. FAIL.<br>
<br>
On a bit of a tangent, I personally know there's at least five tech
folks within line of site of Colin's house. Myself, three web
designers who work from home and a Google employee. One could probably
make it work. Except then you've got to bring in Atria. I've priced
it out to bring them in to my house, near Colin's, and it was about
$25K.<br>
<br>
It's an interesting idea. But to date no one's been able to pull it
off.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 01/02/11 01:25 PM, Colin Mackay wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Neat.<br>
<br>
Well, I'd be willing to start something in the near future, not really
sure how to architect the whole thing, but it would be interesting.
Problem is, of course, that I am in New Hamburg. I have an excellent
sight line east, south and west and was planning (hoping?) to put up a
TV tower this summer. At least we could share Linux distros! I
wonder, if we ended up with a large enough network, lets say in 5 years
we manage to collect a thousand interlinked nodes and even managed to
VPN between other geographical areas that have the same network...
Could make for an interesting private network. If we encrypted all
traffic and data and built it out. Start Internet 2 out as a
distributed, encrypted cloud, kind of like Freenet.<br>
<br>
Ah, pipe dreams. :) I'm sure the government would complain once it got
too big. Still, it'd be fun to create. Do we have the skills
necessary, in the LUG, to work out requirements for an encrypted, wide
area mesh network? Hardware and software, of course.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:13 PM, L.D. Paniak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ldpaniak@fourpisolutions.com" target="_blank">ldpaniak@fourpisolutions.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Bender,
is that you?<br>
<br>
You can cover a lot of ground with directed 80211a point-to-point links<br>
eg:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.beezwaxproducts.com/product_info.php?products_id=107" target="_blank">http://www.beezwaxproducts.com/product_info.php?products_id=107</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.beezwaxproducts.com/popup_add_image.php?imagesID=85&osCsid=206f1915f49fa0097ecf85245a97278c&products_id=107" target="_blank">http://www.beezwaxproducts.com/popup_add_image.php?imagesID=85&osCsid=206f1915f49fa0097ecf85245a97278c&products_id=107</a>'<br>
<br>
One could make the hardware rather maintenance-free/ redundant, but the<br>
whole system would cost money. I'd envision a non-profit organization<br>
over-seeing the show.<br>
<br>
The real trick is to get a proper internet portal to direct all the<br>
traffic through. Retail is not going to do. I would include Atria(aka<br>
Rogers) in that category. One needs to completely circumvent the<br>
gibberish of the CRTC and talk to wholesale vendors.<br>
<br>
Think Bell will let us coloc a wireless "a" bridge at one of their COs?<br>
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On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 12:08 -0500, Colin Mackay wrote:<br>
> Modified Futurama quote: (Sorry.)<br>
><br>
> "Oh, no room for us on the internet, huh? Fine! I'll go build my
own<br>
> internet, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the internet
and<br>
> the blackjack! Ahh, screw the whole thing!"<br>
><br>
> I've often wondered what it would be like to get a large area mesh<br>
> network setup, the only issue I see is trusting everyone; who would<br>
> own the final connection to the net? What if it goes down and the<br>
> person is on vacation; we can't get in to fix it? How do we
connect<br>
> those that are a little farther away? Do we need multiple entry<br>
> points?<br>
><br>
> It could end up costing quite a bit, in the long run...<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Adam Glauser <<a href="mailto:adamglauser@gmail.com" target="_blank">adamglauser@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> On 2/1/2011 11:34 AM, L.D. Paniak wrote:<br>
> You wants to build a mesh network on the west side
of<br>
> Kitchener?<br>
><br>
><br>
> Is there an ISP that will offer a service that is allowed
to<br>
> be shared in this way? Atria maybe?<br>
><br>
> Let's assume that one of us had a fibre connection
available,<br>
> and that the service agreement allowed sharing. What does<br>
> Atria change per GB for usage? I wonder what sort of usage<br>
> terms would be required for equitable cost distribution in<br>
> such a scheme.<br>
><br>
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