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I want to see that talk please.<br><br>Joseph Wennechuk<br>
________________<br><br><br><br><br>> From: ldpaniak@fourpisolutions.com<br>> To: kwlug-disc@kwlug.org<br>> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:45:42 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] OpenWRT / 802.11n / USB / SD / GB - MAC filtering wi-fi side specific?<br>> <br>> Instead of looking for proper hardware, why don't you build it yourself:<br>> <br>> Take an old PC (lots of USB, SATA, video...) and put a low power CPU in<br>> it. Load the PCI(E) slots or USB up with your favourite Wifi radios and<br>> install the x86 version of OpenWRT for a mondo appliance. You could<br>> have a 7 radio CRTC magnet. Poor neighbors.<br>> <br>> The Atom systems from Intel give low power (<35W) platforms you can<br>> craft with your choice of x86 distro. <br>> <br>> Debian Live is a good way to build an appliance with all the goodness of<br>> the deb way. Burn your image onto a USB stick et voila!<br>> <br>> Does that sound too much like a talk proposal?<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 16:23 -0500, unsolicited wrote:<br>> > Yep.<br>> > <br>> > You want the functionality, you want the capability, you want the <br>> > commercial quality (5km outside range), you're not going to get <br>> > factory direct prices.<br>> > <br>> > The public retail market will never deliver this. You will never buy <br>> > all of this from Best Buy.<br>> > <br>> > $200 to make the problem go away is peanuts. If we're lucky, that's <br>> > $200 CDN.<br>> > <br>> > Slap a waterproof cover on this, and you've got building to building.<br>> > <br>> > Not that I care about the commercial possibilities of this (but I'd <br>> > gladly help people out to do so) - I just want the issue put to bed.<br>> > <br>> > What's our time worth to keep waiting and searching and looking and ...<br>> > <br>> > Khalid Baheyeldin wrote, On 01/15/2010 4:11 PM:<br>> > > One more thing about the Ubiquity (from reading the thread): it is kind <br>> > > of "bare".<br>> > > You need to buy a wireless card, a cover, ...etc. This makes it closer <br>> > > to $200,<br>> > > rather than the under $100 all in one routers.<br>> > > <br>> > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:44 PM, unsolicited <unsolicited@swiz.ca <br>> > > <mailto:unsolicited@swiz.ca>> wrote:<br>> > > <br>> > > Agreed. I'm in.<br>> > > <br>> > > I believe the Ubiquity RouterStation Pro<br>> > > (http://www.ubnt.com/products/rspro.php) is the box, given its<br>> > > flexibility, but it's not local. So what. I'm guessing Cedric bought<br>> > > http://www.ubnt.com/airview/, given his presentation, so he already<br>> > > understands the lines of supply to Ubiquity.<br>> > > <br>> > > It's their product line that confuses me, and that this is a bare<br>> > > board with multiple mini-pci slots. But I expect sufficient<br>> > > expertise is around to grok this. And put a cover on it.<br>> > > <br>> > > It wouldn't surprise me if we could sell this (via Cedric / John?).<br>> > > As you say Bob, it's a matter of local expertise, and having the<br>> > > product in hand. Any SMB/SOHO could use one, we could all use one.<br>> > > Especially if it relayed current wi-fi. i.e. Facilities could use it<br>> > > to provide wi-fi internet access to the public while keeping their<br>> > > own internal networks secure - with one (black) box.<br>> > > <br>> > > Why? Because it's nails the current need to the floor for a good<br>> > > long while - fire and forget. We're all tired of waiting for the<br>> > > latest hardware to solve this problem and be done with it. It's<br>> > > taken way, way, to much eye space and time.<br>> > > <br>> > > Anyone else interested?<br>> > > <br>> > > Robert P. J. Day wrote, On 01/15/2010 10:21 AM:<br>> > > <br>> > > On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:<br>> > > <br>> > > every so often, i look around to see if there's a new,<br>> > > openwrt-ideal<br>> > > router out there. and by openwrt-ideal, i mean:<br>> > > <br>> > > * runs the latest version of openwrt with a 2.6 kernel<br>> > > * at least one USB 2.0 port (preferably two)<br>> > > * supports the graphical (luci) interface<br>> > > * etc, etc, you get the idea.<br>> > > <br>> > > Me too ... the development is behind the new models<br>> > > available at the<br>> > > large stores.<br>> > > <br>> > > Graphical interface is not a must for me. Command line or<br>> > > web based<br>> > > is fine.<br>> > > <br>> > > But to add to the list:<br>> > > <br>> > > * Wireless N support.<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > i actually had tossed that in under the "etc, etc" part. :-)<br>> > > but if<br>> > > someone identifies such a router that's locally available, how<br>> > > about a<br>> > > kwlug project for a few people to each buy one, and then have the<br>> > > locals document the crap out of it and put that up at the kwlug site<br>> > > so others can do the same?<br>> > > <br>> > > from my experiences with the openwrt list, the biggest drawback for<br>> > > beginners to get into openwrt is:<br>> > > <br>> > > * deciding which router to buy, then<br>> > > * learning the hard way that that router has some deficiencies<br>> > > <br>> > > if enough kwlug people can agree on a particular router that would<br>> > > seem to fit most peoples' needs, we can collectively document<br>> > > exactly<br>> > > how to get it running out of the box, at which point a *lot* more<br>> > > people should be able to follow along.<br>> > > <br>> > > it's just a thought.<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > kwlug-disc_kwlug.org <http://kwlug-disc_kwlug.org> mailing list<br>> > > kwlug-disc_kwlug.org <http://kwlug-disc_kwlug.org>@kwlug.org<br>> > > <http://kwlug.org><br>> > > http://astoria.ccjclearline.com/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > -- <br>> > > Khalid M. Baheyeldin<br>> > > 2bits.com <http://2bits.com>, Inc.<br>> > > http://2bits.com<br>> > > Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.<br>> > > Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. -- Edsger W.Dijkstra<br>> > > Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. -- Leonardo da Vinci<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> > > <br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > kwlug-disc_kwlug.org mailing list<br>> > > kwlug-disc_kwlug.org@kwlug.org<br>> > > http://astoria.ccjclearline.com/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org<br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > kwlug-disc_kwlug.org mailing list<br>> > kwlug-disc_kwlug.org@kwlug.org<br>> > http://astoria.ccjclearline.com/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org<br>> <br> </body>
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