<FONT face="Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size=2>-----kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org wrote: -----<br><div>>To: KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc@kwlug.org><br>><br>>Let's be clear ... I, and I believe John, are talking RAID 5.<br>><br>>Not RAID 0, 1, or JBOD.<br><br>I don't have a preferred RAID level, each has their benefits and weaknesses. RAID 5 is rarely a good choice for reliability and with capacity needs growing its rebuild time becomes unbearable. It's generaly only chosen for it's low cost per usable GB.<br><br>I'm assuming Glen is talking about small systems. RAID 1E, 5E, 6E and other non-standard strategies tend to be more beneficial to large arrays. I was originally thinking of those in my response.<br><br>>And if we're not talking hot swappable, I'm not entirely sure I get <br>>the point of RAID. At time of non-hot swappable RAID failure, you're <br>>looking at at least one, and probably two reboots - one to get the<br>>bad <br>>disk out, and a second to put the replacement in. Frequently, the two<br>>are hours or days apart. e.g. Run to your local stores to find a <br>>replacement, it's late at night and they're closed, or out of stock<br>>...)<br><br>Hot swap is a very good point. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with hot swap on Linux DM.<br><br>>As per list threads not long ago, short of hot swappable RAID 5, it<br>>is <br>>debatable how valuable RAID is at all, given the size and speed of <br>>today's SATA II drives. Good points on both sides, but it is a loud <br>>debate.<br><br>There are three reasons for RAID redundancy (aka uptime), performance and consolidation of disk space. Any one can be a reason for using RAID. Redundancy can only be achieved with more than one disk.<br><br>>The real question you have to answer: How long can you be down? What <br>>is your RTO and RPO? Once down, how long can it take to recover? And <br>>how good, and how recent, are your off-line backups?<br>><br>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_time_objective<br>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_point_objective<br>><br>>For JBOD, I'm not entirely certain I get the advantage, vs. software <br>>'volume sets.'<br><br>Are you looking for ideas on which RAID level performs better? To answer that we would need to know how it will be used.<br></div></FONT>