<FONT face="Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size=2><div><font color="#990099">-----kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org wrote: -----<br></font><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid #000000; padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><font face="Courier New,Courier,monospace" size="3">Rashkae <rashkae@tigershaunt.com> writes:<br>> ... kicking sleeping<br>> homeless people to the head.<br><br>Well la-de-da Mr. I-Got-High-Speed<br><br>> (Rogers has dial-up?)<br><br>Golden Triangle aka Execulink<br></font></blockquote><br>Now I understand your problem. You can't use any DSL provider since they all resell Bell's services. Even the ones that don't still co-located in the same COs.<br><br>One thing to watch is that developing neighbourhoods, if it financially permits, get mini-COs to bring the DSLAM closer to your house.<br><br>My situation is not too far from yours. I've got sketchy DSL since my move to an adjacent neighbourhood. It still works okay, it's just took a modem change to make it acceptable.<br><br>My solution can be solved by going back to Rogers if I care to.<br><br>Your's on the other hand sounds like you have limited options. You can consider a few things depending on your location:<br><br>1. Terago (nee World without wire) offers 802.11 wireless service. Last I heard they were still priced beyond residential rates.<br>2. Sympatico offers "unplugged" service, a WiMAX wireless offering.<br>3. There is satellite service in two varieties: 1 uses your existing analog to make download requests (like web pages) and it sends the downloads through the satellite signal. The other is actual bi-direction satellite. This is also higher than residential rates, but it is less than $100.<br>4. Fibreoptic. This is probably your most costly option, but man it's fast and clean. At a $5k startup and $600/month it's likely beyond your budget.<br>5. Dedicated T1 (hundreds in setup and hundreds per month.)<br><br>Then there are contractually prohibited options like sharing a neighbours' Internet, if you have a neighbour far enough away to have good service and close enough for a wifi signal.<br><br>I can only give first hand reports on fibre. I have a friend on satellite (bi-dir) who finds latency too poor for SSH. I've seen wireless service (not Wi FI or Max) that had lots of packet loss due to collisions (It was a toronto market.)<br><br>Aside from WiMAX, it seems to me 512Kb looks like cheap bandwidth compared to the options.<br></div></FONT>