<FONT face="Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size=2><div><font color="#990099">-----kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org wrote: -----<br></font>>It was fine before the distro upgrade. It was 8.04, then I upgraded<br>>this afternoon.<br>><br>>Thinkpad T60<br>>Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex)<br>><br>>Runs fast, new Ibex-y widgets are cool.<br>>Even hibernate and suspend work right! Those did not work with<br>>Heron.<br>>But it's a laptop... and when I unplugged the AC to go on battery...<br>>Screen freaks out.<br>>caps lock won't respond.<br>>can't alt tab to a text console.<br>>ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't restart X<br>>ctrl-alt-del doesn't reboot.<br>><br>>Hard power off works. Reboot with AC unplugged is fine, runs from<br>>battery<br>>as expected. Add AC power, after booting from battery is okay. <br>>Screen<br>>gets brighter as backlight goes to higher settings. All normal.<br>><br>>Remove AC again, no problem. Replace AC, no problem.<br>><br>>Wait a while and remove AC and it freezes again.<br>><br>>Thoughts?<br><br>Hangs are almost always kernel related. I'd suspect a driver is being told to reduce power consumption and a bug in the driver is causing the hang. One non-driver related thing could be CPU scaling. Other suspects are hard disk (power down), video card, wireless NIC. I'm not sure how the last two would reduce power, but they are often the cause of laptop woes. Boot up to battery might not induce the same bug.<br><br>One obvious way to narrow it down to the kernel or as a possible band-aid is to boot with the old kernel. If it involves downgrading too many packages I'd shy away from this.<br><br>Long term solutions could be kernel upgrade or modifications to the power management: e.g. keeping the problem driver and device at full power on a switch to battery, or powering up under AC under low power.<br></div></FONT>