[kwlug-disc] C-22 ... metadata ... is now debated on the floor

[Doug Moen]

I said that because the previous version of this surveillance legislation was opposed by the Conservatives on the basis of privacy concerns. Now that the Liberals have a majority, they can just ram it through.

However, my statement was an emotional reaction that may have been ill considered and melodramatic.

I have almost 700 people in my email contacts list from just the last 5 years. I don't even know who a bunch of these people are, because I get included in various group emails. Some of those people may be social activists who are opposed to certain government policies. If any of those people become persons of interest to the government due to their political activity, then I become guilty by association. Even if I don't actually know the other person, I could still have my home invaded by the police.

The thing is, with email, even if I find perfectly secure and private hosting for my moens.org domain, the other 700 people will not have secure and private email, so the metadata and text of those emails will still be available to the surveillance state that the Liberals are setting up.

So I'm not sure that any of this matters.

Mikalai proposes to switch to secure and private protocols, but most of the people I associate with are not tech people, they only use email and facebook, and they will not switch to a different protocol. So it doesn't help me personally.

Doug.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2026, at 2:02 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> Doug,
> 
> Can you please elaborate on this part: "Now that the Liberals have a majority, Canada looks like an unsafe country for hosting email"
> 
> Why is that so?
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 2:27 PM Doug Moen <doug at moens.org> wrote:
>> __
>> I'm reconsidering my options for which commercial service I use to operate email services for my personal domain. Now that the Liberals have a majority, Canada looks like an unsafe country for hosting email (given that I am uninterested in operating my own SMTP server). Which is too bad, because I'd rather give my money to a Canadian business.
>> 
>> Proton is what I'm investigating right now.
>> 
>> Doug.
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