[kwlug-disc] Xubuntu 22.04 to 24.04 Upgrade
Mikalai Birukou
mb at 3nsoft.com
Thu Sep 5 09:45:44 EDT 2024
On 2024-09-03 19:56, Jason wrote:
> This is one reason I use Linux Mint, as they've completely removed snap, and I support their reasoning for doing so: https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3906
>
> Also, from here: https://winaero.com/enable-or-disable-snap-in-linux-mint-20/
Quote about snaps from 2020's post:
"""
A year later, in the Ubuntu 20.04 package base, the Chromium package is indeed empty and acting, without your consent, as a backdoor by connecting your computer to the Ubuntu Store.
"""
... "as a backdoor" ... into user's habits. Dark pattern at the very least.
> The Snap Store is exclusively controlled by Canonical. It is a centralized software source.
> While Snap is open-source, it only works with the Ubuntu Store.
> You cannot create your own store, and uses a closed protocol to deliver updates.
> This means that Snap client works only with one store, and nobody can create his own store for redistributing span packages.
>
> Personally, I would use Flatpak because at least you can host your own Flatpak repository if Flathub ever goes away.
>
> It was frustrating when using Ubuntu Server, that doing things like installing Firefox with apt, was just a wrapper for the snap package install.
> This actually broke the man pages and they aren't available.
> Hilariously this has been a known bug since 2016: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1575593
>
> Cheers,
> Jason
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 6:59 PM Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
>
>> I am using Xubuntu 22.04 LTS on the desktops, and Ubuntu Server LTS 22.04 on the servers.
>> So far, I have managed to do away with snap totally.
>> The snapd package is not even installed on any of these computers.
>> The trick is to uninstall any snap packages, and then uninstall snapd itself.
>>
>> $ sudo snap
>> Command 'snap' not found, but can be installed with:
>> apt install snapd
>>
>> When upgrading (from 20.04 LTS to 22.04 LTS) Canonical did not re-install snapd.
>>
>> For Firefox, I use the Mozilla Team PPA from apt, and all works well.
>>
>> I am hoping that my luck so far with this scheme continues with 24.02 LTS.
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