[kwlug-disc] Backup plan for BBB server this month

[CrankyOldBugger]

Just give them all of your personal information, and it will start to work
for you...  well, kinda work...

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 at 14:57, Colin_ via kwlug-disc <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
wrote:

> Getting closer I'm just refusing to surrender with the WebRTC and XMPP etc
> containers just yet.
> https://meet.nixc.us/
>
> October 4, 2024 at 11:25 AM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org"
> <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co
> <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co?to=%22KWLUG%20discussion%20-%20kwlug-disc%20at%20kwlug.org%22%20%3Cra%2Bufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm%40simplelogin.co%3E>>
> wrote:
>
>
> On 2024-10-04 08:48, Colin_ via kwlug-disc wrote:
>
> I am about 30% away from a probably functional Jitsi meet instance just in
> case I'll leave it up if I get it working well.  I just have to do some
> reverse proxy magic and it should be golden.
>
> This in itself can be a topic for talk. Reverse proxy. How for sites. How
> for WebRTC. What are indicators in that TLS handshake. Handshake itself.
> I'd love to hear this.
>
> October 4, 2024 at 12:45 AM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org"
> <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co
> <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co?to=%22KWLUG%20discussion%20-%20kwlug-disc%20at%20kwlug.org%22%20%3Cra%2Bufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm%40simplelogin.co%3E>>
> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah I spent about an hour staring into the abysse looking at BBB it
> apparently seems to require 20 separate interoperating services to be able
> to hold digital conferences?! really???
>
> It is like a sausage (octoberfest time) 🙂 : you never want to know how it
> is made. As long as you don't step from the most traveled path, and their
> script just runs, fingers crossed.
>
>
> https://github.com/bigbluebutton/docker/blob/develop/docker-compose.tmpl.yml Their
> documentation even have the gall to concider this a "easy deployment of
> BBB" woooof oh boy.  it looks like a polar plunge.
>
> October 3, 2024 at 10:19 PM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org"
> <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co
> <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co?to=%22KWLUG%20discussion%20-%20kwlug-disc%20at%20kwlug.org%22%20%3Cra%2Bufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm%40simplelogin.co%3E>>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks to you and Jason for the offers. As Mikalai noted Rogers fixed
>
> the connection, so my message was a big unnecessary false alarm.
>
>
> - Paul
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 03:15:11PM -0400, Mark Steffen wrote:
>
> I have a Jitsi server, happy to volunteer it for a backup if needed,
>
> assuming the bandwidth requirements are a fit.
>
>
> How much bandwidth do you think that would use symmetrically?  I only have
>
> symmterical gigabit presently, so I wouldn't want it to use more than
> about
>
> 500mbps to leave room for other things.
>
>
> Would also need to load test, it was mainly used for family "gatherings"
>
> during covid, maybe 10-12 connections tops.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 2024-10-03 3:05 p.m., Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc wrote:
>
> > As of now (and since Oct 1) it looks like our BigBlueButton server has
>
> > been inaccessible, because Datacity is having an internet outage at
>
> > its datacentre. (I cannot imagine its paying customers are very happy
>
> > right now.)
>
> I suspect most of their customers have moved to their Waterloo location
>
> with two different fibers to Front Street. I will 😳.
>
>
> I don't think we should expect another truck accident near Roger fibers
>
> this coming Monday. We have already witnessed once in a blue moon streak
>
> of fiber cuts. I am hopeful, cause this isn't Texas 🙂. Fiber cut has
>
> been fixed. And yes, it took Rogers 24 hours.
>
>
> > I imagine this will be fixed by Monday. If not: does anybody have
>
> > access to a different videoconferencing solution we could use for
>
> > Monday? It should be able to support 15-20 participants. Open source
>
> > (BBB, Jitsi, ???) is ideologically nicer, but a proprietary service
>
> > might work in the worst case. We would have to test such a setup
>
> > Friday or Saturday.
>
> For this kind of backup, let's note that we have 15-20 non-video-cam
>
> participant, with only two presenting streams. This should instruct a
>
> required bandwidth.
>
>
> I wonder, if this can be some kind of vm, rolled out in case of emergency.
>
>
> We can put BBB and greenlight behind existing haproxy (using an almost
>
> copy paste of BBB's own haproxy settings). If there is possibility in
>
> case of emergency to spawn up and down vm where kwlug.org is located,
>
> then in an emergency colocated vm process can be started.
>
>
> > My understanding is that meet.jit.si has limitations now?
>
> >
>
> > I don't like opening this can of worms but it is important to me that
>
> > we maintain good accessibility for people who prefer to participate
>
> > online.
>
> >
>
> > - Paul
>
> >
>
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