[kwlug-disc] Backup plan for BBB server this month

[Mikalai Birukou]

On 2024-10-04 08:48, Colin_ via kwlug-disc wrote:

> I am about 30% away from a probably functional Jitsi meet instance just in case I'll leave it up if I get it working well. I just have to do some reverse proxy magic and it should be golden.

This in itself can be a topic for talk. Reverse proxy. How for sites. How for WebRTC. What are indicators in that TLS handshake. Handshake itself. I'd love to hear this.

> October 4, 2024 at 12:45 AM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org" <[ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co](mailto:ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co?to=%22KWLUG%20discussion%20-%20kwlug-disc%20at%20kwlug.org%22%20%3Cra%2Bufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm%40simplelogin.co%3E)> wrote:
>
>>> Yeah I spent about an hour staring into the abysse looking at BBB it apparently seems to require 20 separate interoperating services to be able to hold digital conferences?! really???
>>
>> It is like a sausage (octoberfest time) 🙂 : you never want to know how it is made. As long as you don't step from the most traveled path, and their script just runs, fingers crossed.
>>
>>> https://github.com/bigbluebutton/docker/blob/develop/docker-compose.tmpl.yml Their documentation even have the gall to concider this a "easy deployment of BBB" woooof oh boy. it looks like a polar plunge.
>>>
>>> October 3, 2024 at 10:19 PM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org" <[ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co](mailto:ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co?to=%22KWLUG%20discussion%20-%20kwlug-disc%20at%20kwlug.org%22%20%3Cra%2Bufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm%40simplelogin.co%3E)> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks to you and Jason for the offers. As Mikalai noted Rogers fixed
>>>>
>>>> the connection, so my message was a big unnecessary false alarm.
>>>>
>>>> - Paul
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 03:15:11PM -0400, Mark Steffen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a Jitsi server, happy to volunteer it for a backup if needed,
>>>>>
>>>>> assuming the bandwidth requirements are a fit.
>>>>>
>>>>> How much bandwidth do you think that would use symmetrically? I only have
>>>>>
>>>>> symmterical gigabit presently, so I wouldn't want it to use more than about
>>>>>
>>>>> 500mbps to leave room for other things.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would also need to load test, it was mainly used for family "gatherings"
>>>>>
>>>>> during covid, maybe 10-12 connections tops.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-10-03 3:05 p.m., Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As of now (and since Oct 1) it looks like our BigBlueButton server has
>>>>>
>>>>>> been inaccessible, because Datacity is having an internet outage at
>>>>>
>>>>>> its datacentre. (I cannot imagine its paying customers are very happy
>>>>>
>>>>>> right now.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect most of their customers have moved to their Waterloo location
>>>>>
>>>>> with two different fibers to Front Street. I will 😳.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think we should expect another truck accident near Roger fibers
>>>>>
>>>>> this coming Monday. We have already witnessed once in a blue moon streak
>>>>>
>>>>> of fiber cuts. I am hopeful, cause this isn't Texas 🙂. Fiber cut has
>>>>>
>>>>> been fixed. And yes, it took Rogers 24 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I imagine this will be fixed by Monday. If not: does anybody have
>>>>>
>>>>>> access to a different videoconferencing solution we could use for
>>>>>
>>>>>> Monday? It should be able to support 15-20 participants. Open source
>>>>>
>>>>>> (BBB, Jitsi, ???) is ideologically nicer, but a proprietary service
>>>>>
>>>>>> might work in the worst case. We would have to test such a setup
>>>>>
>>>>>> Friday or Saturday.
>>>>>
>>>>> For this kind of backup, let's note that we have 15-20 non-video-cam
>>>>>
>>>>> participant, with only two presenting streams. This should instruct a
>>>>>
>>>>> required bandwidth.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder, if this can be some kind of vm, rolled out in case of emergency.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can put BBB and greenlight behind existing haproxy (using an almost
>>>>>
>>>>> copy paste of BBB's own haproxy settings). If there is possibility in
>>>>>
>>>>> case of emergency to spawn up and down vm where kwlug.org is located,
>>>>>
>>>>> then in an emergency colocated vm process can be started.
>>>>>
>>>>>> My understanding is that meet.jit.si has limitations now?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't like opening this can of worms but it is important to me that
>>>>>
>>>>>> we maintain good accessibility for people who prefer to participate
>>>>>
>>>>>> online.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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