[kwlug-disc] Backup plan for BBB server this month

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This makes sense its like how the ingredients were so insane for a self hosted sentry that we completely dropped it and switched over to GlitchTip its much better and doesn't require literally 30 docker microservices to run one its more like 3.



October 4, 2024 at 12:45 AM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org" <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co> wrote:



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> > Yeah I spent about an hour staring into the abysse looking at BBB it apparently seems to require 20 separate interoperating services to be able to hold digital conferences?! really???
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> It is like a sausage (octoberfest time) 🙂 : you never want to know how it is made. As long as you don't step from the most traveled path, and their script just runs, fingers crossed.
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> > https://github.com/bigbluebutton/docker/blob/develop/docker-compose.tmpl.yml Their documentation even have the gall to concider this a "easy deployment of BBB" woooof oh boy.  it looks like a polar plunge. 
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> > October 3, 2024 at 10:19 PM, "KWLUG discussion - kwlug-disc at kwlug.org" <ra+ufldbbsvjexizxayvqisniizm at simplelogin.co> wrote:
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> > > Thanks to you and Jason for the offers. As Mikalai noted Rogers fixed 
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> > >  the connection, so my message was a big unnecessary false alarm. 
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> > >  - Paul 
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> > >  On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 03:15:11PM -0400, Mark Steffen wrote: 
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> > > > I have a Jitsi server, happy to volunteer it for a backup if needed, 
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> > > >  assuming the bandwidth requirements are a fit. 
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> > > >  How much bandwidth do you think that would use symmetrically?  I only have 
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> > > >  symmterical gigabit presently, so I wouldn't want it to use more than about 
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> > > >  500mbps to leave room for other things. 
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> > > >  Would also need to load test, it was mainly used for family "gatherings" 
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> > > >  during covid, maybe 10-12 connections tops. 
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> > > >  Mark 
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> > > >  On 2024-10-03 3:05 p.m., Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc wrote: 
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> > > >  > As of now (and since Oct 1) it looks like our BigBlueButton server has 
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> > > >  > been inaccessible, because Datacity is having an internet outage at 
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> > > >  > its datacentre. (I cannot imagine its paying customers are very happy 
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> > > >  > right now.) 
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> > > >  I suspect most of their customers have moved to their Waterloo location 
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> > > >  with two different fibers to Front Street. I will 😳. 
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> > > >  
> > > >  I don't think we should expect another truck accident near Roger fibers 
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> > > >  this coming Monday. We have already witnessed once in a blue moon streak 
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> > > >  of fiber cuts. I am hopeful, cause this isn't Texas 🙂. Fiber cut has 
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> > > >  been fixed. And yes, it took Rogers 24 hours. 
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> > > >  > I imagine this will be fixed by Monday. If not: does anybody have 
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> > > >  > access to a different videoconferencing solution we could use for 
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> > > >  > Monday? It should be able to support 15-20 participants. Open source 
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> > > >  > (BBB, Jitsi, ???) is ideologically nicer, but a proprietary service 
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> > > >  > might work in the worst case. We would have to test such a setup 
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> > > >  > Friday or Saturday. 
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> > > >  For this kind of backup, let's note that we have 15-20 non-video-cam 
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> > > >  participant, with only two presenting streams. This should instruct a 
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> > > >  required bandwidth. 
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> > > >  
> > > >  I wonder, if this can be some kind of vm, rolled out in case of emergency. 
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> > > >  We can put BBB and greenlight behind existing haproxy (using an almost 
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> > > >  copy paste of BBB's own haproxy settings). If there is possibility in 
> > > >  
> > > >  case of emergency to spawn up and down vm where kwlug.org is located, 
> > > >  
> > > >  then in an emergency colocated vm process can be started. 
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> > > >  
> > > >  > My understanding is that meet.jit.si has limitations now? 
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> > > >  > I don't like opening this can of worms but it is important to me that 
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> > > >  > we maintain good accessibility for people who prefer to participate 
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> > > >  > online. 
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> > > >  
> > > >  > - Paul 
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