[kwlug-disc] Software and a Service versus "as a Service"

Jason jasonpa at gmail.com
Tue Oct 1 17:09:25 EDT 2024


This is why I love self-hosting. If a free service is in the cloud, there
is still a cost to it.
Eventually the bill comes due, and once it's popular enough and you're
locked in, they will start charging subscription fees.

While software licenses can change such as recently with Hashicorp
Terraform, we've seen it happen both ways, like with Elasticsearch and
Kibana moving back to open source.
You have less chance of a rug pull or at least have some control since you
host it. The worst is that you won't continue to get updates.

The repo for Mirantis K8s Lens is still around but at the bottom it shows
that it was retired:
https://github.com/lensapp/lens

Info on when they went closed-source:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39811772

As an alternative, check out K9s: https://k9scli.io/

There is actually a CNCF Toronto event tomorrow where it will be covered:
https://community.cncf.io/events/details/cncf-cloud-native-toronto-presents-october-toronto-cncf-meetup-end-user-stories/

Fun videos on this topic (the second one talks about some self-hosting
options):

Fireship - Paying for software is stupid… 10 free and open-source SaaS
replacements
https://youtu.be/e5dhaQm_J6U?si=EqFLR8LuRyrLc2Qf

Fireship - How To Make AWS Not Suck
https://youtu.be/gJmz31JywM0?si=it4-egZKQE5ouQdi

Cheers,
Jason

On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 4:58 PM Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc <
kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:

> I just received an email from a team/company that makes a "lens for
> kubernetes". Email says something about excitement and a new version.
>
> We had a round table on kubernetes, when I showed lens. Few months later
> I needed it, and a new version already insisted on me having cloud
> account. I had to meticulously go through history to find the last
> release that allows you to use it as software, as expected.
>
> You don't even get Software from "Software as a Service" vendor. This
> obviousness is even in the name. When software eats the world, and it is
> your section that gets eaten, you want software to be yours. But with
> Software as a Service, it is not my software that attempts to eat my
> part of the world (e.g. control of my infrastructure). Instead of giving
> me Software, they attempt to fool me into subscribing to Service,
> resulting in me not getting Software.
>
> Software and a Service -- is what we look for.
>
>
>
>
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