[kwlug-disc] Search engine that actually searches for strings

[Doug Moen]

Here's what I know about Google's plan to lock down browsers and prevent people from compiling their own browsers:
  https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrity-api-sounds-like-drm-for-the-web/


On Thu, Sep 21, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Steve Izma wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 07:18:58PM -0400, Doug Moen wrote:
>> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Search engine that actually searches for strings
>> 
>> Update: youtube isn't working for me in Tor, I remember it used
>> to work, but maybe Google is cracking down now.
>
> I don't know about Tor browser, so at what point is it not
> working? Can you get to the page but not play the video? What
> happens if you feed the video URL to yt-dlp? Can you download it?
>
>> Privacy is almost impossible on the mainstream (non-indy) web
>> right now. I expect it will be completely impossible once
>> Google finishes implementing their web browser DRM idea, in
>> which all mainstream web sites will use a google API to
>> cryptographically verify that you are running an unmodified
>> version of Chrome with no extensions that Google disapproves
>> of. This is necessary of course for security reasons, to
>> protect users.
>
> I'm having trouble thinking through all the parameters here.
> What about text-based browsers like w3m?
>
> I use Qutebrowser, which is Chrome-based. Does this mean that it
> will stop working once Google's nefarious plans are completed?
>
> If so, I guess I'm going to need to abandon the Web the way I
> abandoned TV in 1970. The state of commercials on the Web is even
> worse than that of TV back then anyway.
>
> 	-- Steve
>
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