[kwlug-disc] Ivermectin

[Mike Holloway]

Joining in to thank you Khalid. The laser focus on sound methodology and pointing out the use of poor heuristics is an exhausting but necessary endeavour.

Mike

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On Jan. 2, 2023, 4:18 p.m., Andrew Sullivan Cant wrote:

> Khalid,
>
> I didn't post a thank you last year, but better late than never.
>
> Thank you for collecting and writing up all these links!
>
> Andrew
>
> On 2022-12-15 19:32, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>> The more one reads about this alleged research, by Pierre Kory and others,
>> the clearer it emerges that they are intentionally misleading, and not just
>> making honest mistakes or sloppy research.
>>
>> Any competent and honest researcher will be open to new information and
>> ready to change their stance when presented with new facts. Instead, the
>> stance here is more like : "it is a goat, not a dove, even if it flew away".
>>
>> The meta-analysis that was published by Kory, as well as similar ones by
>> others,
>> are actually deceptive, when the methodology of systematic review is
>> applied.
>>
>> Here is Dr. Susan Oliver who describes what a meta-analysis is, what
>> criteria
>> are applied and how, and how the conclusions are weighed. She then goes
>> on to show that this meta-analysis is flawed, and even deceptive
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_1mmnRm7EU> ...
>>
>> Dr. Yan Yu <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOjpo8vLfSo> (a physician in
>> Alberta).
>>
>> The Cochrane Collaboration also finds it flawed
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3VAbSovY3Y>.
>>
>> And the Cochrane Collaboration is not just one person with a web site or
>> Youtube channel. It is actually tens of thousands of collaborators in the
>> medical field from 130 countries who review medical studies and summarize
>> them for the use of health authorities worldwide, including the WHO. One
>> of their goals is to have independent review that is not affected in anyway
>> by pharmaceutical companies.
>>
>> More on the Cochrane Collaboration
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpY0ogAHNJY>.
>>
>> And none of this prompting of refuted medicines is benign either.
>> It is actually harmful ...
>>
>> And I mean actual physical harm, not just the collateral harm on society
>> by wasting
>> time and effort, and muddying up sincere and legitimate debate about
>> these topics,
>> and others.
>>
>> Doctors have seen hospitalizations and ICU admissions
>> <https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2114907> because people literally
>> poisoned themselves when they self medicated with ivermectin based on the
>> baseless propaganda
>>
>>
>>
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