[kwlug-disc] sadness in Ubuntu land
Andrew Sullivan Cant
acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca
Sun May 1 14:01:13 EDT 2022
I just did the upgrade to 22.04, last night. The system prompted me to
do it, like a regular upgrade, and it worked.
However, now I have lost the Firefox installation through APT.
:sadtrombone:
My installation steps described below no longer work. :( I guess it is
time to try out the PPA method from OMG if I want browserpass or the
ability to install new Gnome extensions.
Andrew
On 2022-04-28 17:10, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
> I'll say one thing for the new Ubuntu, the new RDP (with legacy VNC)
> option is certainly speedier than the old way.
>
> And no longer needing the Dash-to-dock extension (now built-in, sort of)
> is good too.
>
> The Snaps ecosystem aside, I don't find 22.04 to be too bad at all. The
> new GNOME Extensions app seems to cover what we lose when using FF for
> GNOME extensions, so no big loss there.
>
> And for the first time in a long time, the Ubuntu upgrade app worked
> without any issues on my laptop. Usually I have to do a wipe and load.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 4:44 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant
> <acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca <mailto:acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca>> wrote:
>
> I saw that article last week, but I don't understand why the PPA is
> needed.
>
> Here is my context:
> * I re-installed my laptop with Ubuntu (v21.10), maybe 2 months ago
> * installed various firefox extensions from apt including the Gnome
> extension helper:
> - webext-browserpass
> - webext-privacy-badger
> - webext-ublock-origin-firefox
> - chrome-gnome-shell
> * then I noticed some inconsistent behaviour in Firefox configuration,
> and realized that there were now 2 copies of Firefox installed
> - snap version, which has been installed by default
> - deb version, which was installed as a dependency from the webext-*
> packages
>
> After I realized this I remove the snap version, `snap remove firefox`,
> and everything seems to be working as expected. Including that the apt
> installed browser could communicated with the local helpers needed for
> the Gnome and browserpass addons.
>
> Tada? I guess...
>
> It was a bit confusing, but now it seems to be working, including
> surviving automatic updates.
>
> Hopefully, this is a helpful data point. :)
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On 2022-04-24 16:12, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
> > Seems like we're not the only ones concerned about FF as a Snap:
> >
> >
> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04
> <https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04>
>
> >
> <https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04
> <https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04>>
> >
> > OMGUbuntu takes a more in-depth look at how to fix this.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 12:41 AM Chris Irwin via kwlug-disc
> > <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
> <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>>> wrote:
> >
> > __
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, at 00:23, Chris Frey wrote:
> >> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you
> have
> >> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the
> unstable
> >> distribution that some required packages have not yet been
> created
> >> or been moved out of Incoming.
> >> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> >>
> >> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >> firefox : PreDepends: snapd but it is not going to be installed
> >> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
> >
> > It may be as simple as Ubuntu's (snap-installing) deb has a
> slightly
> > higher version that the one from the third-party repo, rather
> than a
> > malicious modification to apt itself. You should be able to
> use apt
> > pinning to say `firefox` should only be installed from a specific
> > repo. This might also prevent the dependency warning message.
> >
> > A mocked-up /etc/apt/preferences.d/mozillateam:
> >
> > Package: firefox
> > Pin release o=mozillateam
> > Pin-Priority: -10
> >
> > However, I don't actually have an Ubuntu machine to test, so
> you may
> > need to adjust that. I got this from the following URLs:
> >
> > 1.
> >
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get
> <https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get>
> >
> <https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get <https://askubuntu.com/questions/449426/pinning-package-using-own-repository-and-apt-get>>
> > 2. https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences
> <https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences>
> > <https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences
> <https://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences>>
> >
> > If you're looking for alternative distros, Fedora is nice. I
> > switched from Ubuntu about 10 years ago now, and have been
> very happy.
> >
> > If you're just trying to avoid the startup issues associated with
> > snap, the flatpak firefox from flathub works well. It's
> provided by
> > Mozilla, and is indistinguishable from the native firefox. I
> have it
> > installed for troubleshooting and honestly have few issues
> with it.
> >
> > --
> > *Chris Irwin*
> >
> > email: chris at chrisirwin.ca <mailto:chris at chrisirwin.ca>
> <mailto:chris at chrisirwin.ca <mailto:chris at chrisirwin.ca>>
> > web: https://chrisirwin.ca <https://chrisirwin.ca>
> <https://chrisirwin.ca <https://chrisirwin.ca>>
> >
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