[kwlug-disc] Matrix clients

[CrankyOldBugger]

Good work, Doug.  That's probably the best analysis of the current state of
things that I've ever seen.  Thanks for that.


On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 8:31 AM Doug Moen <doug at moens.org> wrote:

> Matrix and IRC are decentralized chat rooms.
> Mastodon is decentralized Twitter.
> Diaspora is decentralized Facebook.
> Peertube is decentralized YouTube.
> There are a bunch more.
>
> All the programs I just mentioned use a type of decentralization called
> Federation. There is a client-server architecture, but you can choose a
> server, or run your own. For example, in Matrix or IRC,  multiple servers
> can participate in a single chat room. In Mastodon, you can follow people
> on your own server, or on other servers.
>
> The universe of federated social media services is called the Fediverse.
>
> Other architectures for decentralization: peer to peer, and Blockchain.
>
> IPFS is a peer to peer alternative to HTTP. Internally, it's like a mashup
> of BitTorrent and git. Files are identified by hashes and are downloaded
> from the nearest peer rather than a centralized server.
>
> A Merkle Tree is a data structure used by many decentralized systems,
> including Blockchain, Git, IPFS, Matrix. It is essentially a tree of hashes.
>
> A Blockchain is a decentralized, publicly viewable, append-only database
> or ledger. It doesn't have to be used for cryptocurrency, you can store
> anything in a blockchain. Like NFTs. NFTs were originally intended to be
> decentralized Patreon, where you can donate to an artist and have a
> Blockchain record of your donation. Then NFTs were co-opted by grifters,
> who created a market for NFTs, based on the false claim that you were
> "buying" an artwork. Actually you are buying a character string containing
> a URL that points to an art work. If the URL stops working, maybe your NFT
> becomes worthless.
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, at 1:10 AM, Chris Frey wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 10:41:25PM -0400, Doug Moen wrote:
> >> Matrix is real time chat, like a modern version of IRC. Conversations
> take
> >> place in specific "rooms".
> >>
> >> Mastodon is decentralized twitter. You are broadcasting short messages
> to all
> >> of the people who follow your message stream.
> >
> > I think Matrix is also supposed to be decentralized too, if
> > I understand correctly.
> >
> > - Chris
> >
> >
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