[kwlug-disc] cell phone plans, specifically aero

[Mikalai Birukou]

I'd love to see aero's budget projection. Summaries don't count :) . I 
wonna see unit economics, and a painstaking line by line of from where 
each dollar comes from, and where it goes. What are periods that require 
injection? Does this business make money during business operation, 
especially in an asymptotic future, like in business that lasts decades?

I remember AOL used to give access to internet, overlayed with ads. This 
one is an access without wires.

Also, interesting pitch line: "Did you know that student loan debt is 
the highest it’s ever been, hitting $1.46 trillion?" Where do they go 
with it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzlT80jQ3lo

Oh, its Sunday. We may dwell on this for another second. Phone is $399. 
Compare it to Pine at $150. Roughly 400-150=250. How long does a person 
stay a student? 3 years? Can you get 80/year service at volume? And this 
assumes contract doesn't require pay or lock after student stops being a 
student, else, it just adds to student debt {Who've read those terms and 
conditions? :) }. Does service stop being free, after student leaves? 
When do they plan to offload this onto your pension fund, like what is 
their exit, financed by money that come from your pension funds? Or, am 
I too strict of an accountant?


On 2021-05-30 8:43 a.m., jason.eckert wrote:
> I've had a few students participate in the pilot, and they say that 
> it's truly unlimited (no limits) too. Not a bad deal for the price ;-)
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung device running Android (basically Linux in drag)
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Chris Craig <kwlug.org at ciotog.net>
> Date: 2021-05-30 07:40 (GMT-05:00)
> To: KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] cell phone plans
>
> Very interesting! Cat Coode is on the advisory panel, so I can't 
> imagine they're going to be too evil...
>
> On Sat, 29 May 2021 at 15:29, Jason Eckert <jason.eckert at gmail.com 
> <mailto:jason.eckert at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     If you can wait until next year, you can get your phones for free:
>     https://airo.life/
>     Of course, this is provided you are OK with them monetizing your
>     data - it happens anyways, at least this way you get a free phone
>     and data plan out of it ;-)
>
>     On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 3:19 PM Znoteer via kwlug-disc
>     <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org <mailto:kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>> wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 12:19:20PM -0400, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
>         > It's that time of the decade when I sit down and decide that
>         I'm paying
>         > waaaay too much for mine and Wifeski's cellphone plans.
>         >
>         > So I humbly beseech the experts...
>         >
>         > What are you guys using for cell phones plans? What's the
>         coverage like?
>         > Do you still have money left for food after you pay your
>         monthly phone bill?
>         >
>
>         I'm in Montreal, so my experience may not be applicable to
>         you.  I have a
>         $35/mo plan with Chatr and a $40/mo plan with Lucky.
>
>         The chatr plan ($35) is unlimited Canada-wide calling, unlimited
>         International SMS, 2GB data/mo, voicemail.  Coverage in my
>         region is fine.
>
>         The lucky plan ($40) is the same with 4GB data/mo, call
>         display, conference
>         calls, and call waiting.  Again, no coverage problems.
>
>         But, it sounds like you maybe only need a cell phone plan for
>         your wife.
>         You could port your number to voip.ms <http://voip.ms> and
>         configure the account so that all
>         calls are forwarded.  If you want to continue having a laugh a
>         cheesy text
>         spam once a year, you could set up sms on the number.
>
>         It would cost you (even though voip.ms <http://voip.ms> is
>         canadian they do all their
>         business in USD so all prices quoted for voip.ms
>         <http://voip.ms> are in that currency, not
>         CAD) I think $0.85/mo to keep the phone number in your name. 
>         After that
>         it's either $0.009 or $0.0052 per minute for incoming calls (I
>         can't
>         remember which fee is incoming and which is outgoing). SMS
>         cost something
>         ridiculously low per/unit also.
>
>         If you don't receive or make any calls in a month, your
>         account will have
>         costed you US$0.85 and maybe some taxes.  Rounding the per
>         minute price to
>         $0.01 you could talk for nearly 4 solid hours each day for 20
>         days (5 work
>         days x 4 weeks in a month) with your current $45/mo plan if
>         you switched to
>         voip.ms <http://voip.ms> (4hrs/day x 60 min/hr x 20 days x
>         $0.01/min = $48).
>
>         Good deal hunting,
>
>         -- 
>         Znoteer
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