[kwlug-disc] Salt master. Was it updated after this spring fallout?

Jeff Smith crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
Sat Jun 27 23:20:34 EDT 2020


Sorry if you already talked about this, but I saw this Salt related video in my newsfeed just now..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir6AACAwJEY


The Urban Penguin (maker of this video) is a decent enough YouTube channel on all things Linux...

[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVF.M6K2AOMUcdY2wdISyS6Uwg&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir6AACAwJEY>
Installing Salt Open on CentOS 8 and Ubuntu 18.04<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir6AACAwJEY>
In this video we install the latest version of Salt Open on CentOS 8 as the master and minion service and on Ubuntu 18.04 just the salt-minion. As well as the install we see that we need to open the firewall ports on the salt-master as CentOS 8 has host based firewall by default. #Linux #Devops #Salt
www.youtube.com


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From: kwlug-disc <kwlug-disc-bounces at kwlug.org> on behalf of Chris Frey <cdfrey at foursquare.net>
Sent: 26 June 2020 18:56
To: Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Salt master. Was it updated after this spring fallout?

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 08:50:54PM -0400, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:
> Clearly LTS is losing, which means a lot more cognitive burdens for
> sysadmins -- but at the same time Salt (and many other projects) that
> use the rolling release "move fast and break things" approach depend
> upon a stable Ubuntu onto which they can build THEIR software. They
> just don't want the people USING Salt to have the same experience.
> There is some kind of disconnect here.

There is a difference in the level of support between the Ubuntu main
repositories and the universe / multiverse repos, and it looks to me
that Ubuntu draws the lines based on cost.

        https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ

        "Ubuntu is currently divided into four components: main,
        restricted, universe and multiverse. All binary packages in
        main and restricted are supported by the Ubuntu Security team
        for the life of an Ubuntu release, while binary packages in
        universe and multiverse are supported by the Ubuntu community."

For Debian, the lines are drawn based on Free Software licenses:

        https://www.debian.org/security/faq#contrib

        Q: How is security handled for contrib and non-free?

        A: The short answer is: it's not. Contrib and non-free aren't
        official parts of the Debian Distribution and are not released,
        and thus not supported by the security team. Some non-free
        packages are distributed without source or without a license
        allowing the distribution of modified versions. In those cases
        no security fixes can be made at all. If it is possible to fix
        the problem, and the package maintainer or someone else provides
        correct updated packages, then the security team will generally
        process them and release an advisory.

Fortunately for Debian, salt is in main.  Unfortunately for Ubuntu,
salt is in universe.

- Chris


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