[kwlug-disc] I found a decent space for us if we want it.

Paul Nijjar paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca
Wed Mar 21 12:04:04 EDT 2018 

As I wrote privately to Chamunks: since there are only two people
allowed the volunteers need to commit to attending every meeting.
Otherwise if neither shows up we are out of a space. 

- Paul

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:14:58PM +0000, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
> It looks like you have a fine pair of volunteers, but if you need a spare
> backup redundant extra person, pencil my name in.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 at 23:13 Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Okay, so there's a contract and a limitation of 2 biometrics members.  I
> > might be able to convince Kapley the building owner into three of us it
> > seems like there is a bit of a disparity between what Stephanie
> > Goertz(spelling?) want out of it or are able to do.  I have a difficult
> > time accepting less than my goals at times.  Do we feel comfortable with
> > paperwork?  If so I can upload a PDF out of the list to you two with the
> > document I have here scanned via my android.
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 5:23 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant <
> > acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> Paul,
> >>
> >> I am happy to get setup as someone who can host, and share
> >> responsibility for opening then space.
> >>
> >> I agree that a meeting with everyone who would be a host and a person
> >> from the the building I a good way to start. We can learn about using
> >> the space. Also hopefully make sure that we are all clear on what the
> >> building owners are getting out of this arrangement.
> >>
> >> If we try it and it works, maybe we can explicitly book it for all our
> >> dates in 2018.
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2018-03-09 6:39 PM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:i
> >> >
> >> > Is there anybody else in the group who would be interested in being a
> >> > host for the group? This would involve setting up for meetings, being
> >> > present, and shutting down. I guess it also means being scanned
> >> > biometrically?
> >> >
> >> > There may also be duties with scheduling speakers and helping them get
> >> > ready for the meeting.
> >> >
> >> > It would be good to have Colin, me, and at least two other people
> >> > willing to take on this role. We should all meet, potentially with
> >> > somebody from the building who could help us book the space.
> >> >
> >> > - Paul
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 11:14:26PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
> >> >> That would be fine by me.  I wasn't sure I was keen on the situation
> >> either
> >> >> exactly so I asked and they said they'd hook me up with biometrics for
> >> the
> >> >> meeting space down the road too. I've also taken the time to connect
> >> with
> >> >> the property manager as well.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018, 5:49 PM Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Okay. Let's arrange a meeting to figure out the logistics (what we
> >> >>> need to access the space, who needs to be present to host, what
> >> >>> arrangements they want, etc). If we can book the space for specific
> >> >>> months then we can try to meet there.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We will also want a set of people who can host the space (who are not
> >> >>> only me).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I have some familarity with the Boemher box building, since Spectrum
> >> >>> is there. I have heard mixed reviews of how responsive the landlords
> >> >>> are. I would want assurances that we can book for particular days.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The fallback plan to this could remain St John's Kitchen, so long as I
> >> >>> am around and have keys. Boehmer Box is basically across the street
> >> >>> from SJK.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - Paul
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:51:45PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
> >> >>>> Is it the Boemher Box building.  Which is why I mentioned the new
> >> >>> property
> >> >>>> management and renovations they are reworking the building and the
> >> >>> section
> >> >>>> we will be hosted is going to be a well maintained section
> >> regardless of
> >> >>>> what happens in the rest of the building.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> There's two levels of response.  Free and not free.
> >> >>>> - So free being we are allowed the space because the property owner
> >> wants
> >> >>>> us as a feature in his building and find's the concept exciting.
> >> >>>> - Not free being we could put up a sign or something mentioning that
> >> the
> >> >>>> space is available for people if they wanted to rent a desk in the
> >> >>> co-share
> >> >>>> space.  Likely just toss in a thanks however there hasn't been any
> >> >>> explicit
> >> >>>> requirements stated about this sort of thing.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Nothing is free in this world it all costs something however in this
> >> >>> case I
> >> >>>> think that the owner of the building is happy with the concept of
> >> having
> >> >>> us
> >> >>>> in the building to help educate and attract people into their
> >> ecosystem
> >> >>> as
> >> >>>> our "cost".
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:45 PM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <
> >> >>>> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> This is the Boemher Box building?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> What is the cost for use of the space?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> - Paul
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:22:16PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
> >> >>>>>> There is a space that I've found it's a co-share space next door to
> >> >>>>> Google.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Location 1 Photos:
> >> >>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zELtRVgM7XodrNcw2
> >> >>>>>> Location 1 Map Link:
> >> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/3YcX4aW8yAq
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Location 2 Map Link:
> >> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/YQb7jwhihrB2
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> The location is under new property management since KWARTZ Lab was
> >> >>> there
> >> >>>>>> with Kaplan being on site more often.  The co-share space would
> >> come
> >> >>> with
> >> >>>>>> Biometric after-hours access for myself and a number of other KWLUG
> >> >>>>>> members.  This access would be granted for the Co-Share space which
> >> >>> is in
> >> >>>>>> the photos I posted and for the Datacenter office space down the
> >> >>> road if
> >> >>>>> we
> >> >>>>>> aren't able to lock in the co-share space for some reason.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> The co-share space comes with an HD projector which can be
> >> projected
> >> >>>>> onto a
> >> >>>>>> massive white wall so that everyone in the room can see much easier
> >> >>> then
> >> >>>>>> what we've had now.  We would also be able to store our stuff
> >> >>> securely on
> >> >>>>>> site so that we could have a bit more permanence than we do now.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Ideally, what I was thinking because there is an ISP in the
> >> building
> >> >>>>>> CloudWiFi and the Co-Share itself has its own WiFi we could likely
> >> >>> set
> >> >>>>> up a
> >> >>>>>> proper streaming setup as well which would be beneficial for
> >> >>> increasing
> >> >>>>>> attendance of the KWLUG.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> We also would have the potential option to maybe talk them into
> >> >>> letting
> >> >>>>> us
> >> >>>>>> use their Meetup account if we don't arrange one for ourselves
> >> >>> because I
> >> >>>>>> think one of the biggest things ( that we should discuss outside of
> >> >>> this
> >> >>>>>> thread if we want to discuss it ) is that we're not on Meetup.
> >> There
> >> >>>>> are a
> >> >>>>>> lot of people who rely on Meetup to locate interesting groups in
> >> the
> >> >>>>>> region.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> So in abstract,
> >> >>>>>> Pros:
> >> >>>>>> - New secure space for us
> >> >>>>>> - Two potential locations in case one is for some reason not
> >> suitable
> >> >>>>> for a
> >> >>>>>> meeting here and there.
> >> >>>>>> - Meetup Account we may not have to moderate ourselves.
> >> >>>>>> - Stable and likely fiber connectivity.
> >> >>>>>> - Full network infrastructure available.
> >> >>>>>> - HD Projector.
> >> >>>>>> - Large wall for projection screen usage.
> >> >>>>>> - Quiet and productive environment.
> >> >>>>>> - 24/7 access for core members of KWLUG at two locations.
> >> >>>>>> - Within a visual range of our current meeting space so we're not
> >> >>> really
> >> >>>>>> moving far.
> >> >>>>>> - Kitchenette if we wanted to do food for whatever reason.
> >> >>>>>> - A fairly motivated community manager who wears many hats at the
> >> >>>>> location
> >> >>>>>> who may be interested in helping out with driving the expansion of
> >> >>> the
> >> >>>>>> group.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Cons:
> >> >>>>>> - The building is undergoing a fairly significant upgrade so no
> >> >>>>> Accessible
> >> >>>>>> entrance yet but one is planned.
> >> >>>>>> - Parking may be less convenient than the St. Johns kitchen but no
> >> >>>>>> extortionate paid parking seems to be taking up residence in the
> >> >>>>>> surrounding streets as of yet.
> >> >>>>>> - Somewhat limited shared parking currently with more parking
> >> >>> planned.
> >> >>>>>
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> >> >>>>>
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