[kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies

[Ron Singh]

Understandable. The main reason I mentioned the various DEs was simply the
fact that most Linux newbies will likely be refugees seeking shelter from
the Microsoft storm, but will still be more amenable to making a change to
Linux if the change is marginal. I life Xfce for it's simplicity,
intuitiveness and it's resemblance to a weird hybrid of XP/W7 desktop. Mein
frau likes Mate for it easy of access to just about every program just like
Win-XP. Most folks I have worked with on the transition absolutely abhorred
Gnome3 and KDE as they feel that too much is "hidden". I think they didn't
care for the task/apps ribbons and bars. I tend to agree with them, but I
am a certified card-carrying Luddite, so, there it is.

Since Ubuntu is not going to be doing any furthering of  Unity and will be
focusing on Gnome3, definitely a showing of 16.04.3 with Gnome3 make sense
with a nod to Mate and Xfce.  My experience with openSUSE was abysmal. I
would welcome an opportunity to see an install and see how you deal with
that nasty software updater and software installer.

I personally went the Mint way and Xfce DE  as I have absolutely control
over the various levels of updates since updating for the sake of updaing
can sometimes break stuff.
The way Linux Mint curates their offering and their update mechanism seems
to suit my sensibilities perfectly. So far(11 months), no breakage on my
production machines, yaaa!

Let me know if I stick with a 128G SSD or pop in the WD 500G 7200RPM HDD.

Thanks,

Ron Singh
"in transit, via mobile comm device"

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:55 PM, James Kelsh <freshmeadow1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ron. I plan on keeping it simple. I am going to go through an Ubuntu
> 16.04.3 installation from my dvd and after showing the Unity desktop, I am
> going to install the Gnome desktop onto it like I do for my own machines.
> To much choice in desktop environments may be overwhelming.
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>  I can mention Mate, LXDE, XFCE etc. and show screenshots from the web
> maybe, but I will keep it simple and direct.
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> Having the X220 for a dry run would be great.
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> I may also do an install of openSUSE on my laptop in VMWare to show both a
> VM install and another Linux distribution.
>
> Jim
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> *From: *Ron Singh <ronsingh149 at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 19, 2018 3:59 PM
> *To: *KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [kwlug-disc] Linux & Linux admin for newbies
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> Yup, I will be at the Feb meet.
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> I think it might be wise to get the X220 to you before the meeting so that
> you can do a dry run of the install and make sure all is good before doing
> the live install at KWLUG's Feb meet? I am in Waterloo and can meet up
> wherever to hand off the laptop.
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> I wonder, since most folks really interact with a PC's desktop environment
> and browsers, would it be prudent to mebbe stuff a 500G HDD in the laptop
> so that you could have multiple installs of Linux, simply for a presenter
> to showcase the pros/cons of various desktop environments?
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> I cannot justify(afford) storage any greater than a 128G SSD or a 500G
> 7200RPM WD Black HDD, and I think a 128G SSD might be tight if one wanted
> around 4 installs to show off Xfce, Mate, Cinnamon, Gnome3, or LXDE etc.
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> Rambling on a bit further, I wonder if I should not just leave the X220
> without whoever will be doing any sort of presenting and who might be
> reluctant to mess with their own hardware, perhaps that person would
> benefit from a beater laptop?
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> Thanks,
>
> Ron Singh
> "in transit, via mobile comm device"
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> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:24 PM, James Kelsh <freshmeadow1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Thank you Ron, it will help! That way I font have to overwrite my existing
> Ubuntu installation!!!!!
>
> Will you be at the February meeting? We can talk there.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Ron Singh <ronsingh149 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jim, I can lend an X220 laptop with 8G and an SSD(to reduce install time
> and make the presentation go a bit faster) for the bare-metal install if
> this help in anyway.
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>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron Singh
> "in transit, via mobile comm device"
>
>
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> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:14 AM, James Kelsh <freshmeadow1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I would be happy to do it in March. I am thinking to include installation
> on bare metal from a dvd, USB stick, and maybe dual booting and installing
> from an iso in a VM too.
> Let's talk further at the February meeting.
> Jim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jan 18, 2018, at 10:24 PM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <
> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
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