[kwlug-disc] Meltdown and computer sales

Chamunks chamunks at gmail.com
Wed Jan 17 16:16:02 EST 2018


Thanks for posting that Khalid I never would have dug it up.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 6:03 PM Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:

> If you are on Firefox ESR (like me), then ESR is not vulnerable to
> Meltdown, with or without extensions.
>
> If you are on Firefox 57, there is an option that you can turn off to
> eliminate the risk of Meltdown. Unless you upgraded to the latest 57,
> and that gets done for you.
>
> SharedArrayBuffer is the option.
>
>
> https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2018/01/03/mitigations-landing-new-class-timing-attack/
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Andrew Stevanus (KWLUG)
> <andrew+kwlug at hoot.tech> wrote:
> > Seconding uMatrix. It allows much more fine-grained control than
> > NoScript. It doesn't have some of NoScript's other features like ABE,
> > XSS, and clickjacking protection, though, so I actually use both and
> > just enable scripts globally in NoScript and block them with uMatrix.
> >
> > On 2018-01-16 04:25 PM, Chamunks wrote:
> >> You should consider uMatrix it's really quite good and lets you enjoy a
> bit
> >> more of a modern web experience without the finnicky nature of NoScript
> >> itself https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:20 PM Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, I use NoScript currently on Firefox ESR.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Local exploit that with frameworks like WebAssembly might be
> exploitable
> >>>> through your browser.  Use uMatrix & Firefox/Chrome or Brave browser
> >>> with JS
> >>>> disabled by default on places you don't trust.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:00 PM Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Remember that Meltdown is a LOCAL exploit.
> >>>>> That means that someone is able to execute unauthorized code on your
> >>>>> machine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On desktops and dedicated servers, this is less of a concern, since
> it
> >>>>> is game over already if someone is able to execute code locally.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On virtualized machines, this is a big concern. Data can be leaked by
> >>>>> other instances active on the same physical server. So companies
> >>>>> operating virtual servers are concerned about this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AMD's vulnerability (Spectre) is less severe than Meltdown, and their
> >>>>> latest generation of CPUs caught up to Intel in terms of performance
> >>>>> and cost as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I will consider them in future purchases.
> >>>>>
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