[kwlug-disc] Syntax and indenting in vim 8.0 driving me crazy ...

Tue Feb 20 12:51:20 EST 2018

You can map a couple of function keys to do that for you. Less keystrokes.

But here is what I experienced relating to this:

I had that issue of pasting autoindent for a long time.
Until I deleted all my .vimrc file and .vim directory, and hence only using
the default vim settings.
No more pasting issues, until vim 8.0!

Now, when I created a new .vim, with only this in it:

:syntax on
set ai
set expandtab
set tabstop=2
set sw=2
set incsearch

I don't have indenting of pasted stuff anymore, neither on 7.4 (Ubuntu
16.04) nor 8.0 (Raspian 9).

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:43 PM, doug moen <doug at moens.org> wrote:

> I have autoindent turned on by default, but it gets in the way if I paste
> text from the clipboard.
> So I got used to typing
>    :se noai
> to turn off autoindent, and
>    :se ai
> to turn it back on.
>
> On 20 February 2018 at 12:20, Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
>
>> That helps a lot Doug!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:51 AM, doug moen <doug at moens.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Here are my settings for autoindentation, taken from my .vimrc file.
>>>
>>> " turn on autoindent
>>> set ai
>>>
>>> " convert tabs into spaces during text entry (but not when reading a
>>> file)
>>> set expandtab
>>>
>>> " If I edit a file containing tabs, this controls the tab indentation
>>> when the text is displayed.
>>> " If I type Tab, it indents to the next multiple of 4 (converting the
>>> tab to spaces)
>>> set tabstop=4
>>>
>>> " This is the 'shift width'.
>>> " During text entry, ^T indents to the next shift-width column,
>>> " and ^D undents to the previous shift-width column.
>>> " The >> operator indents the selected lines by shift-width spaces,
>>> " and << undents by the same amount.
>>> set sw=4
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 February 2018 at 11:09, Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> An update ...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to Paul Nijjar, I now have a solution (of sorts).
>>>>
>>>> By having this line in my .vimrc, the syntax highlighting is restored.
>>>>
>>>> :syntax on
>>>>
>>>> Autoindents are disabled, but that is better than frustratingly wrong
>>>> autointendation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:27 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For an editor, I have been using vi (then vim) for 31 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> For a long time I had my own customizations in .vimrc, or under .vim
>>>>> directory.
>>>>> But some time ago I discovered that I don't need these customization,
>>>>> since the default syntax, tab width, ..etc. all worked well.
>>>>>
>>>>> On my Ubuntu 16.04 boxes (this laptop, servers, ...etc.), I have vim
>>>>> 7.4, and all is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I got the new Raspberry Pi 3, I installed the latest Raspian on
>>>>> it, and that happened to be version 9. It came with vim 8.0.
>>>>>
>>>>> The packages I have installed are: vim, vim-common, vim-runtime and
>>>>> vim-tiny. /usr/bin/vi symlinks to /usr/bin/vim.basic.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the Ubuntu machines, with vim 7.4, it all works well. Syntax and
>>>>> indenting work correctly for the files I used on a daily basis, such as
>>>>> config files, .yaml, python, c, and php. I don't have a .vimrc file anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, on Raspian 9's vim 8.0, syntax highlighting is correct, but
>>>>> indentation is wrong and it forces wrong indents when I add lines, ...etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I thought that I would override indentation on the RPi using a
>>>>> .vimrc file. The problem is: once I have a .vimrc or .vim directory, all
>>>>> syntax highlighting goes away completely, even if the .vimrc file is empty!
>>>>> That is not the behaviour on Ubuntu: a .vimrc does not cause syntax
>>>>> highlighting to be disabled.
>>>>>
>>>>> One way to solve this is to copy all the syntax stuff from
>>>>> /usr/share/vim80/* into my .vimrc directory, and edit it to remove the
>>>>> offending indentation. But that would be duplication, and not the proper
>>>>> way of doing this.
>>>>>
>>>>> So:
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone encounter this issue?
>>>>>
>>>>> What are good ways to solve it, other than the duplicating above?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Khalid M. Baheyeldin
>>>>> 2bits.com, Inc.
>>>>> Fast Reliable Drupal
>>>>> Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
>>>>> Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. --  Edsger W.Dijkstra
>>>>> Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. --   Leonardo da Vinci
>>>>> For every complex problem, there is an answer that is clear, simple,
>>>>> and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Khalid M. Baheyeldin
>>>> 2bits.com, Inc.
>>>> Fast Reliable Drupal
>>>> Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
>>>> Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. --  Edsger W.Dijkstra
>>>> Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. --   Leonardo da Vinci
>>>> For every complex problem, there is an answer that is clear, simple,
>>>> and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Khalid M. Baheyeldin
>> 2bits.com, Inc.
>> Fast Reliable Drupal
>> Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
>> Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. --  Edsger W.Dijkstra
>> Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. --   Leonardo da Vinci
>> For every complex problem, there is an answer that is clear, simple, and
>> wrong." -- H.L. Mencken
>>
>
>

-- 
Khalid M. Baheyeldin
2bits.com, Inc.
Fast Reliable Drupal
Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. --  Edsger W.Dijkstra
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. --   Leonardo da Vinci
For every complex problem, there is an answer that is clear, simple, and
wrong." -- H.L. Mencken
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