[kwlug-disc] I found a decent space for us if we want it.

Sat Apr 21 19:46:59 EDT 2018

I make it to, I estimate, around 75% of the meetings so feel free to borrow
my finger prints.

On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 5:06 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant <
acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

> Thanks Khalid,
> It is certainly worth adding into our list of possible locations, if the
> other space does not work out.
>
> Did you, or anyone, see a link or contact for how to talk to about using
> the space?
>
> Andrew
>
> On 2018-04-17 12:47 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> > This is in the news today: Google has a space at their building free
> > for community events.
> >
> > Anyone working there and knows more about it?
> >
> > Worth exploring as an alternative venue?
> >
> >
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/google-stem-community-space-kitchener-1.4622958
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I don't see any reason why I wouldn't be able to commit but I'm going to
> >> definitely take a look into seeing if I can't convince Kapley into
> letting
> >> us have three registered people.  It looks like some simple copy &
> pastes in
> >> the Terms of Service Agreement for the space.
> >>
> >> I'm dealing with a bunch of stuff in my AFK world which are making my
> side a
> >> bit slower than I initially anticipated but I should be able to have the
> >> next step taken by the end of next week.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 9:07 AM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc
> >> <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So maybe this is a little strong. We definitely need at least one
> >>> volunteer to be present at every meeting, since we cannot share
> >>> biometrics around. But I am wary of saying "must commit to attend to
> >>> most meetings" because that quickly turns into "commit to attend about
> >>> half the meetings" and then we are in trouble. There really is some
> >>> kind of commitment involved.
> >>>
> >>> On the other hand, there are other roles at KWLUG which require far
> >>> less commitment. It would be nice to have some help with those tasks.
> >>>
> >>> - Paul
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:04:04PM -0400, Paul Nijjar wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> As I wrote privately to Chamunks: since there are only two people
> >>>> allowed the volunteers need to commit to attending every meeting.
> >>>> Otherwise if neither shows up we are out of a space.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Paul
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:14:58PM +0000, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
> >>>>> It looks like you have a fine pair of volunteers, but if you need a
> >>>>> spare
> >>>>> backup redundant extra person, pencil my name in.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 at 23:13 Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Okay, so there's a contract and a limitation of 2 biometrics
> >>>>>> members.  I
> >>>>>> might be able to convince Kapley the building owner into three of us
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> seems like there is a bit of a disparity between what Stephanie
> >>>>>> Goertz(spelling?) want out of it or are able to do.  I have a
> >>>>>> difficult
> >>>>>> time accepting less than my goals at times.  Do we feel comfortable
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> paperwork?  If so I can upload a PDF out of the list to you two with
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> document I have here scanned via my android.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 5:23 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant <
> >>>>>> acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Paul,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am happy to get setup as someone who can host, and share
> >>>>>>> responsibility for opening then space.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I agree that a meeting with everyone who would be a host and a
> >>>>>>> person
> >>>>>>> from the the building I a good way to start. We can learn about
> >>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>> the space. Also hopefully make sure that we are all clear on what
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> building owners are getting out of this arrangement.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If we try it and it works, maybe we can explicitly book it for all
> >>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>> dates in 2018.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Andrew
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2018-03-09 6:39 PM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:i
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is there anybody else in the group who would be interested in
> >>>>>>>> being a
> >>>>>>>> host for the group? This would involve setting up for meetings,
> >>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>> present, and shutting down. I guess it also means being scanned
> >>>>>>>> biometrically?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There may also be duties with scheduling speakers and helping
> >>>>>>>> them get
> >>>>>>>> ready for the meeting.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It would be good to have Colin, me, and at least two other people
> >>>>>>>> willing to take on this role. We should all meet, potentially
> >>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>> somebody from the building who could help us book the space.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - Paul
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 11:14:26PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> That would be fine by me.  I wasn't sure I was keen on the
> >>>>>>>>> situation
> >>>>>>> either
> >>>>>>>>> exactly so I asked and they said they'd hook me up with
> >>>>>>>>> biometrics for
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> meeting space down the road too. I've also taken the time to
> >>>>>>>>> connect
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>> the property manager as well.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018, 5:49 PM Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Okay. Let's arrange a meeting to figure out the logistics (what
> >>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>> need to access the space, who needs to be present to host, what
> >>>>>>>>>> arrangements they want, etc). If we can book the space for
> >>>>>>>>>> specific
> >>>>>>>>>> months then we can try to meet there.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We will also want a set of people who can host the space (who
> >>>>>>>>>> are not
> >>>>>>>>>> only me).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I have some familarity with the Boemher box building, since
> >>>>>>>>>> Spectrum
> >>>>>>>>>> is there. I have heard mixed reviews of how responsive the
> >>>>>>>>>> landlords
> >>>>>>>>>> are. I would want assurances that we can book for particular
> >>>>>>>>>> days.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The fallback plan to this could remain St John's Kitchen, so
> >>>>>>>>>> long as I
> >>>>>>>>>> am around and have keys. Boehmer Box is basically across the
> >>>>>>>>>> street
> >>>>>>>>>> from SJK.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> - Paul
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:51:45PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Is it the Boemher Box building.  Which is why I mentioned the
> >>>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>> property
> >>>>>>>>>>> management and renovations they are reworking the building and
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> section
> >>>>>>>>>>> we will be hosted is going to be a well maintained section
> >>>>>>> regardless of
> >>>>>>>>>>> what happens in the rest of the building.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> There's two levels of response.  Free and not free.
> >>>>>>>>>>> - So free being we are allowed the space because the property
> >>>>>>>>>>> owner
> >>>>>>> wants
> >>>>>>>>>>> us as a feature in his building and find's the concept
> >>>>>>>>>>> exciting.
> >>>>>>>>>>> - Not free being we could put up a sign or something
> >>>>>>>>>>> mentioning that
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> space is available for people if they wanted to rent a desk in
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> co-share
> >>>>>>>>>>> space.  Likely just toss in a thanks however there hasn't been
> >>>>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>> explicit
> >>>>>>>>>>> requirements stated about this sort of thing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Nothing is free in this world it all costs something however
> >>>>>>>>>>> in this
> >>>>>>>>>> case I
> >>>>>>>>>>> think that the owner of the building is happy with the concept
> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> having
> >>>>>>>>>> us
> >>>>>>>>>>> in the building to help educate and attract people into their
> >>>>>>> ecosystem
> >>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>> our "cost".
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:45 PM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <
> >>>>>>>>>>> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is the Boemher Box building?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What is the cost for use of the space?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Paul
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:22:16PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a space that I've found it's a co-share space next
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> door to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Google.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Location 1 Photos:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zELtRVgM7XodrNcw2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Location 1 Map Link:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/3YcX4aW8yAq
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Location 2 Map Link:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/YQb7jwhihrB2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The location is under new property management since KWARTZ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lab was
> >>>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with Kaplan being on site more often.  The co-share space
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>> come
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Biometric after-hours access for myself and a number of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> other KWLUG
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> members.  This access would be granted for the Co-Share
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> space which
> >>>>>>>>>> is in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the photos I posted and for the Datacenter office space down
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> road if
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't able to lock in the co-share space for some reason.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The co-share space comes with an HD projector which can be
> >>>>>>> projected
> >>>>>>>>>>>> onto a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> massive white wall so that everyone in the room can see much
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> easier
> >>>>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> what we've had now.  We would also be able to store our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff
> >>>>>>>>>> securely on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> site so that we could have a bit more permanence than we do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ideally, what I was thinking because there is an ISP in the
> >>>>>>> building
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudWiFi and the Co-Share itself has its own WiFi we could
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> likely
> >>>>>>>>>> set
> >>>>>>>>>>>> up a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> proper streaming setup as well which would be beneficial for
> >>>>>>>>>> increasing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> attendance of the KWLUG.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We also would have the potential option to maybe talk them
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>>>>> letting
> >>>>>>>>>>>> us
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> use their Meetup account if we don't arrange one for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves
> >>>>>>>>>> because I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> think one of the biggest things ( that we should discuss
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of
> >>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> thread if we want to discuss it ) is that we're not on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Meetup.
> >>>>>>> There
> >>>>>>>>>>>> are a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of people who rely on Meetup to locate interesting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> groups in
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> region.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So in abstract,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pros:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - New secure space for us
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Two potential locations in case one is for some reason not
> >>>>>>> suitable
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting here and there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Meetup Account we may not have to moderate ourselves.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Stable and likely fiber connectivity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Full network infrastructure available.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - HD Projector.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Large wall for projection screen usage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Quiet and productive environment.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - 24/7 access for core members of KWLUG at two locations.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Within a visual range of our current meeting space so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we're not
> >>>>>>>>>> really
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> moving far.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Kitchenette if we wanted to do food for whatever reason.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - A fairly motivated community manager who wears many hats
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> location
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> who may be interested in helping out with driving the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> expansion of
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> group.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cons:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - The building is undergoing a fairly significant upgrade so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Accessible
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> entrance yet but one is planned.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Parking may be less convenient than the St. Johns kitchen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> extortionate paid parking seems to be taking up residence in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding streets as of yet.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Somewhat limited shared parking currently with more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> parking
> >>>>>>>>>> planned.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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