[kwlug-disc] I found a decent space for us if we want it.

Tue Apr 17 12:47:20 EDT 2018

This is in the news today: Google has a space at their building free
for community events.

Anyone working there and knows more about it?

Worth exploring as an alternative venue?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/google-stem-community-space-kitchener-1.4622958

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't see any reason why I wouldn't be able to commit but I'm going to
> definitely take a look into seeing if I can't convince Kapley into letting
> us have three registered people.  It looks like some simple copy & pastes in
> the Terms of Service Agreement for the space.
>
> I'm dealing with a bunch of stuff in my AFK world which are making my side a
> bit slower than I initially anticipated but I should be able to have the
> next step taken by the end of next week.
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 9:07 AM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc
> <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> So maybe this is a little strong. We definitely need at least one
>> volunteer to be present at every meeting, since we cannot share
>> biometrics around. But I am wary of saying "must commit to attend to
>> most meetings" because that quickly turns into "commit to attend about
>> half the meetings" and then we are in trouble. There really is some
>> kind of commitment involved.
>>
>> On the other hand, there are other roles at KWLUG which require far
>> less commitment. It would be nice to have some help with those tasks.
>>
>> - Paul
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:04:04PM -0400, Paul Nijjar wrote:
>> >
>> > As I wrote privately to Chamunks: since there are only two people
>> > allowed the volunteers need to commit to attending every meeting.
>> > Otherwise if neither shows up we are out of a space.
>> >
>> > - Paul
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:14:58PM +0000, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
>> > > It looks like you have a fine pair of volunteers, but if you need a
>> > > spare
>> > > backup redundant extra person, pencil my name in.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 at 23:13 Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Okay, so there's a contract and a limitation of 2 biometrics
>> > > > members.  I
>> > > > might be able to convince Kapley the building owner into three of us
>> > > > it
>> > > > seems like there is a bit of a disparity between what Stephanie
>> > > > Goertz(spelling?) want out of it or are able to do.  I have a
>> > > > difficult
>> > > > time accepting less than my goals at times.  Do we feel comfortable
>> > > > with
>> > > > paperwork?  If so I can upload a PDF out of the list to you two with
>> > > > the
>> > > > document I have here scanned via my android.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 5:23 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant <
>> > > > acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Paul,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I am happy to get setup as someone who can host, and share
>> > > >> responsibility for opening then space.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I agree that a meeting with everyone who would be a host and a
>> > > >> person
>> > > >> from the the building I a good way to start. We can learn about
>> > > >> using
>> > > >> the space. Also hopefully make sure that we are all clear on what
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> building owners are getting out of this arrangement.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> If we try it and it works, maybe we can explicitly book it for all
>> > > >> our
>> > > >> dates in 2018.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Andrew
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On 2018-03-09 6:39 PM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:i
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Is there anybody else in the group who would be interested in
>> > > >> > being a
>> > > >> > host for the group? This would involve setting up for meetings,
>> > > >> > being
>> > > >> > present, and shutting down. I guess it also means being scanned
>> > > >> > biometrically?
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > There may also be duties with scheduling speakers and helping
>> > > >> > them get
>> > > >> > ready for the meeting.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > It would be good to have Colin, me, and at least two other people
>> > > >> > willing to take on this role. We should all meet, potentially
>> > > >> > with
>> > > >> > somebody from the building who could help us book the space.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > - Paul
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 11:14:26PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
>> > > >> >> That would be fine by me.  I wasn't sure I was keen on the
>> > > >> >> situation
>> > > >> either
>> > > >> >> exactly so I asked and they said they'd hook me up with
>> > > >> >> biometrics for
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> >> meeting space down the road too. I've also taken the time to
>> > > >> >> connect
>> > > >> with
>> > > >> >> the property manager as well.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018, 5:49 PM Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca>
>> > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>>
>> > > >> >>> Okay. Let's arrange a meeting to figure out the logistics (what
>> > > >> >>> we
>> > > >> >>> need to access the space, who needs to be present to host, what
>> > > >> >>> arrangements they want, etc). If we can book the space for
>> > > >> >>> specific
>> > > >> >>> months then we can try to meet there.
>> > > >> >>>
>> > > >> >>> We will also want a set of people who can host the space (who
>> > > >> >>> are not
>> > > >> >>> only me).
>> > > >> >>>
>> > > >> >>> I have some familarity with the Boemher box building, since
>> > > >> >>> Spectrum
>> > > >> >>> is there. I have heard mixed reviews of how responsive the
>> > > >> >>> landlords
>> > > >> >>> are. I would want assurances that we can book for particular
>> > > >> >>> days.
>> > > >> >>>
>> > > >> >>> The fallback plan to this could remain St John's Kitchen, so
>> > > >> >>> long as I
>> > > >> >>> am around and have keys. Boehmer Box is basically across the
>> > > >> >>> street
>> > > >> >>> from SJK.
>> > > >> >>>
>> > > >> >>> - Paul
>> > > >> >>>
>> > > >> >>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:51:45PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
>> > > >> >>>> Is it the Boemher Box building.  Which is why I mentioned the
>> > > >> >>>> new
>> > > >> >>> property
>> > > >> >>>> management and renovations they are reworking the building and
>> > > >> >>>> the
>> > > >> >>> section
>> > > >> >>>> we will be hosted is going to be a well maintained section
>> > > >> regardless of
>> > > >> >>>> what happens in the rest of the building.
>> > > >> >>>>
>> > > >> >>>> There's two levels of response.  Free and not free.
>> > > >> >>>> - So free being we are allowed the space because the property
>> > > >> >>>> owner
>> > > >> wants
>> > > >> >>>> us as a feature in his building and find's the concept
>> > > >> >>>> exciting.
>> > > >> >>>> - Not free being we could put up a sign or something
>> > > >> >>>> mentioning that
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> >>>> space is available for people if they wanted to rent a desk in
>> > > >> >>>> the
>> > > >> >>> co-share
>> > > >> >>>> space.  Likely just toss in a thanks however there hasn't been
>> > > >> >>>> any
>> > > >> >>> explicit
>> > > >> >>>> requirements stated about this sort of thing.
>> > > >> >>>>
>> > > >> >>>> Nothing is free in this world it all costs something however
>> > > >> >>>> in this
>> > > >> >>> case I
>> > > >> >>>> think that the owner of the building is happy with the concept
>> > > >> >>>> of
>> > > >> having
>> > > >> >>> us
>> > > >> >>>> in the building to help educate and attract people into their
>> > > >> ecosystem
>> > > >> >>> as
>> > > >> >>>> our "cost".
>> > > >> >>>>
>> > > >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:45 PM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <
>> > > >> >>>> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
>> > > >> >>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>> This is the Boemher Box building?
>> > > >> >>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>> What is the cost for use of the space?
>> > > >> >>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>> - Paul
>> > > >> >>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:22:16PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
>> > > >> >>>>>> There is a space that I've found it's a co-share space next
>> > > >> >>>>>> door to
>> > > >> >>>>> Google.
>> > > >> >>>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>> Location 1 Photos:
>> > > >> >>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zELtRVgM7XodrNcw2
>> > > >> >>>>>> Location 1 Map Link:
>> > > >> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/3YcX4aW8yAq
>> > > >> >>>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>> Location 2 Map Link:
>> > > >> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/YQb7jwhihrB2
>> > > >> >>>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>> The location is under new property management since KWARTZ
>> > > >> >>>>>> Lab was
>> > > >> >>> there
>> > > >> >>>>>> with Kaplan being on site more often.  The co-share space
>> > > >> >>>>>> would
>> > > >> come
>> > > >> >>> with
>> > > >> >>>>>> Biometric after-hours access for myself and a number of
>> > > >> >>>>>> other KWLUG
>> > > >> >>>>>> members.  This access would be granted for the Co-Share
>> > > >> >>>>>> space which
>> > > >> >>> is in
>> > > >> >>>>>> the photos I posted and for the Datacenter office space down
>> > > >> >>>>>> the
>> > > >> >>> road if
>> > > >> >>>>> we
>> > > >> >>>>>> aren't able to lock in the co-share space for some reason.
>> > > >> >>>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>> The co-share space comes with an HD projector which can be
>> > > >> projected
>> > > >> >>>>> onto a
>> > > >> >>>>>> massive white wall so that everyone in the room can see much
>> > > >> >>>>>> easier
>> > > >> >>> then
>> > > >> >>>>>> what we've had now.  We would also be able to store our
>> > > >> >>>>>> stuff
>> > > >> >>> securely on
>> > > >> >>>>>> site so that we could have a bit more permanence than we do
>> > > >> >>>>>> now.
>> > > >> >>>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>> Ideally, what I was thinking because there is an ISP in the
>> > > >> building
>> > > >> >>>>>> CloudWiFi and the Co-Share itself has its own WiFi we could
>> > > >> >>>>>> likely
>> > > >> >>> set
>> > > >> >>>>> up a
>> > > >> >>>>>> proper streaming setup as well which would be beneficial for
>> > > >> >>> increasing
>> > > >> >>>>>> attendance of the KWLUG.
>> > > >> >>>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>> We also would have the potential option to maybe talk them
>> > > >> >>>>>> into
>> > > >> >>> letting
>> > > >> >>>>> us
>> > > >> >>>>>> use their Meetup account if we don't arrange one for
>> > > >> >>>>>> ourselves
>> > > >> >>> because I
>> > > >> >>>>>> think one of the biggest things ( that we should discuss
>> > > >> >>>>>> outside of
>> > > >> >>> this
>> > > >> >>>>>> thread if we want to discuss it ) is that we're not on
>> > > >> >>>>>> Meetup.
>> > > >> There
>> > > >> >>>>> are a
>> > > >> >>>>>> lot of people who rely on Meetup to locate interesting
>> > > >> >>>>>> groups in
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> >>>>>> region.
>> > > >> >>>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>> So in abstract,
>> > > >> >>>>>> Pros:
>> > > >> >>>>>> - New secure space for us
>> > > >> >>>>>> - Two potential locations in case one is for some reason not
>> > > >> suitable
>> > > >> >>>>> for a
>> > > >> >>>>>> meeting here and there.
>> > > >> >>>>>> - Meetup Account we may not have to moderate ourselves.
>> > > >> >>>>>> - Stable and likely fiber connectivity.
>> > > >> >>>>>> - Full network infrastructure available.
>> > > >> >>>>>> - HD Projector.
>> > > >> >>>>>> - Large wall for projection screen usage.
>> > > >> >>>>>> - Quiet and productive environment.
>> > > >> >>>>>> - 24/7 access for core members of KWLUG at two locations.
>> > > >> >>>>>> - Within a visual range of our current meeting space so
>> > > >> >>>>>> we're not
>> > > >> >>> really
>> > > >> >>>>>> moving far.
>> > > >> >>>>>> - Kitchenette if we wanted to do food for whatever reason.
>> > > >> >>>>>> - A fairly motivated community manager who wears many hats
>> > > >> >>>>>> at the
>> > > >> >>>>> location
>> > > >> >>>>>> who may be interested in helping out with driving the
>> > > >> >>>>>> expansion of
>> > > >> >>> the
>> > > >> >>>>>> group.
>> > > >> >>>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>> Cons:
>> > > >> >>>>>> - The building is undergoing a fairly significant upgrade so
>> > > >> >>>>>> no
>> > > >> >>>>> Accessible
>> > > >> >>>>>> entrance yet but one is planned.
>> > > >> >>>>>> - Parking may be less convenient than the St. Johns kitchen
>> > > >> >>>>>> but no
>> > > >> >>>>>> extortionate paid parking seems to be taking up residence in
>> > > >> >>>>>> the
>> > > >> >>>>>> surrounding streets as of yet.
>> > > >> >>>>>> - Somewhat limited shared parking currently with more
>> > > >> >>>>>> parking
>> > > >> >>> planned.
>> > > >> >>>>>
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