[kwlug-disc] Local places to buy unlocked phones...

[Chamunks]

welectronics or kw-pc but I would recommend a OEM unlocked device like the
OnePlus or the Pixel/Nexus devices.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 1:38 PM doug moen <doug at moens.org> wrote:

> CopperHeadOS switched licences because Chinese distributors were
> preinstalling CopperheadOS and selling lots of units, undercutting
> Copperhead's prices, but all of these phones were using the CopperHead
> network infrastructure for security updates, etc. So due to the open source
> licencing, Copperhead found themselves providing free software development,
> network infrastructure and customer support to Chinese phone companies, but
> they had no revenue stream to pay their costs.
>
> Note that this wouldn't have been an issue if Copperhead hadn't created
> such a solid and compelling product.
>
> I have a strong preference for open source licencing in most cases, but in
> this case I support their use of CC/BY-NC-SA. On their software download
> page, they express interest in getting a patron to fund the release of
> their code under an open source licence.
>
> On 11 April 2018 at 12:36, Andrew Stevanus (KWLUG) <andrew+kwlug at hoot.tech
> > wrote:
>
>> It should be noted that CopperheadOS relicensed their changes to CC
>> BY-NC-SA (note the *NonCommercial*), so they are not actually Free
>> Software, nor are they even Open Source, by the OSI definition. For that
>> reason, if you care about that sort of thing, I would stick to
>> LineageOS. More info:
>> <
>> https://np.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/5s13ht/a_clarification_about_copperheadoss_present_and/
>> >
>>
>> If you want something that is as Free as possible, you may want
>> something that runs Replicant <https://www.replicant.us/>. However, you
>> should note that because so much ARM hardware depends on non-free blobs,
>> some things won't work on Replicant (like 3D acceleration, or even
>> Wi-Fi, in which case you need an adapter). I'm not aware of any store
>> that sells devices with Replicant pre-installed locally (though I would
>> love to be corrected on this); this is one such online shop:
>> <https://tehnoetic.com/mobile-devices>.
>>
>> Alternatively, there is also the Librem 5
>> <https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/>, which I have high hopes for. It will
>> run native GNU/Linux instead of Android. It hasn't actually been
>> released yet, so you would need to pre-order it. There is always a risk
>> with pre-orders of unfinished hardware, but Purism has delivered other
>> hardware before, so I'm not overly concerned about that.
>>
>> On 11/04/18 11:22, doug moen wrote:
>> > I think you want an open source Android *distribution*. You'll want it
>> > either preinstalled on a new phone that you buy, or some easy way to
>> > install it on a phone after buying it. You'll want automatic security
>> > updates. Probably you don't want to compile the source from scratch and
>> > manually compile and install all security updates.
>> >
>> > The most popular one seems to be LineageOS.
>> >
>> > CopperHeadOS (from Toronto) is an extremely security oriented open
>> source
>> > Android distro. If you want to have the most secure opensource phone on
>> the
>> > planet (which implies that you don't want to be spied on by Google or
>> use
>> > their app store), then you might want CopperHead. You need to buy a
>> phone
>> > from them, which has the OS preinstalled, and then you get security
>> updates
>> > from their server. You'll use fDroid as your app store (it's an open
>> source
>> > app store).
>> >
>> > On 11 April 2018 at 11:06, Federer Fanatic <nafdef at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi, Suggestions on where one can buy unlocked phones running android?
>> >>
>> >> Secondly, opensource android? Definitive source where one can install
>> >> easily
>> >> and super securely?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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