[kwlug-disc] Devuan, a distro without systemd

[Khalid Baheyeldin]

Debian does not 'allow it'. It is a workaround by one person, not an
advocated configuration variant.

If you install Debian you get systemd, with no official way to switch.

So it is not a viable solution.

Notice when he says: "I chose LXDE for the GUI as it has no direct
systemd dependencies".

So, the other three desktops, Gnome, KDE and XFCE, all depend on
systemd. They are the more widely used, and their users are forced to
use systemd. , And that is where the real issue lies.

And I tried checking on Ubuntu 16.04, and neither sysvinit-core nor
runit-systemd exist.

On 7/29/17, Hubert Chathi <hubert at uhoreg.ca> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 23:21:50 -0400, Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> said:
>
> [...]
>
>> Adoption by Debian was a big mistake. At least in the mode that is in
>> now, i.e. not pluggable.
>
> Debian does allow you to switch init systems.  A lot of stuff will still
> pull in the systemd libraries, but you don't need to actually run
> systemd.
>
> e.g. see this thread in debian-user:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00538.html
>
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